Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

2018-03-08 3:38 GMT+01:00 Benda Xu : > Dear Rich, > > Rich Freeman writes: > > > Everybody I know has these sorts of complaints about language-based > > PMs, whether they prefer Ubuntu, or Debian, or CentOS, or whatever. > > Nobody wants random programs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

Hi Folks, Michael Orlitzky writes: > These other package managers don't solve any hard problems -- they're > basically a fancy interface around wget and "git clone." Portage on the > other hand has ~20 years of good ideas and hard work on the hard > problems in package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

Dear Rich, Rich Freeman writes: > Everybody I know has these sorts of complaints about language-based > PMs, whether they prefer Ubuntu, or Debian, or CentOS, or whatever. > Nobody wants random programs downloading random stuff and dropping > orphan files all over their

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:55 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Alec Warner wrote: >> >> Because containers are awesome and are way easier to use. >> > > I think you missed my point: Why are they easier to use? > I suspect that he was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Alec Warner wrote: >> > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/07/2018 12:52 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > > I'm really not happy with the tone of this email, so I'm going to > > comment on it a bit. > > > > Ok, it would have benefited from a do-I-sound-like-a-dick proofread. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

On 03/07/2018 12:52 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > I'm really not happy with the tone of this email, so I'm going to > comment on it a bit. >   Ok, it would have benefited from a do-I-sound-like-a-dick proofread. I don't want to sound discouraging because this is an area with lots of room for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky > wrote: > >> > >> On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote: > >> > Why

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Perl/g-cpan is a project is in a > similar space and basically reads perl CPAN metadata to generate stub > ebuilds. > Portage tracks these stub ebuilds (and so for example, it tracks

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> >> On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote: >> > Why should portage download some outdated second copy of the >> > sources for 'bar',

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote: > > Why should portage download some outdated second copy of the > > sources for 'bar', rebuild it, and scatter it around the file system > > where it cannot be used by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote: > Why should portage download some outdated second copy of the > sources for 'bar', rebuild it, and scatter it around the file system > where it cannot be used by other programs installed by cabal? These other package managers don't solve any hard

[gentoo-dev] Council meeting 2018-03-11

Hi all, the next Council meeting will be on Sunday 2018-03-11, 18:00 UTC in the #gentoo-council channel on Freenode. We have a fairly short agenda this time: 1. Roll call 2. Bugs with council involvement: - GLEP 68 [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/649740 [2]

[gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

Having used Gentoo for a few years now, one thing that has been annoying to me is the tremendous duplication of effort and uphill battle of creating ebuilds (build recipes) for language-specific packages that already have their own build systems. For example, many languages such as Python (pip),

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-video/qt-recordmydesktop

# Michael Palimaka (07 Mar 2018) # Depends on deprecated Qt 4. Dead upstream. # Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug #649116. media-video/qt-recordmydesktop

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-gfx/qosmic

# Michael Palimaka (07 Mar 2018) # Depends on deprecated Qt 4. Dead upstream. # Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug #644424. media-gfx/qosmic