On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 00:06 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote:
Since dostrow is being retired or is retired, correct me if I'm wrong
we decided (actually we rolled dices :-) that welp is the new lead.
Not really retired, just not doing ebuild work anymore (only doing
events management for LWE and
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 16:25 -0800, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
All:
As I am no longer an ebuild dev (real life job got in the way) I have a
whole slew of hardware that I'm willing to ship to any gentoo dev for
the cost of shipping alone. The list of hardware is as follows:
1x HP C3700 750 MHz PA
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 18:27 -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 16:25 -0800, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
1x HP ZX2000 1.4 GHz Itanium2
I know that you said off-list, but I'm stating this here simply because
I want to make sure people know that I have dibs if this meets my
needs
snip
Yeah, I tend to agree. Not-so-coincidentally, Gentoo's been invited to
join the Software Freedom Conservancy, which would provide just the sort
of 3rd-party management that you're suggesting. I put a write-up on my
blog detailing what we know so far:
total-snip
One additional note, my proposal doesn't account for controlling
flaming, disrespect or general asshatery (discounting outright
ridiculous things like blatantly insulting people, that's a no-no). That
I am afraid is just one of the natures of communities our size. There is
no way we
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 13:24 -0700, Mike Doty wrote:
All-
We're going to change the -dev mailing list from completely open to where only
devs can post, but any dev could moderate a non-dev post. devs who moderate
in
bad posts will be subject to moderation themselves. in addition the
On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 01:39 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
the new util-linux package has merged the setarch binary. for the upgrade
path, i figure we do:
- drop sys-apps/setarch from profiles
- add sys-apps/setarch to util-linux-2.12 based on arch?()
- add !sys-apps/setarch to
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 14:09 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Hi all,
I'm back for my yearly posting about creating a gentoo-dev-announce
list [1]. Fedora recently created a fedora-devel-announce list with a
great description of how it works, what's posted to it, etc [2], which
got me excited
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 16:08 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 23:35 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:31:32 -0700
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On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 22:01 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
The specific underlying question
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 21:11 +0200, Wernfried Haas wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:39:26AM -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Internet Explorer doesn't even *run* on Gentoo. If it did, it
would likely be in the tree since quite a few people would likely use
it, even if just for testing. I
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 23:18 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
Hi folks,
I know this issue is not actually in the scope of this list, but
maybe some of you might be interested:
Lots of packages have optional parts which (IMHO) should/could be
their own packages, ie. GUI frontends to console
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 01:11 +0200, Florian D. wrote:
Daniel Drake wrote:
Hi,
2.6.21 was released today. Testing muchly appreciated as usual -- please
file bugs and clearly mark them as 2.6.21 regressions if that is the case.
hello,
2.6.21 will break the current *stable* VMware
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 00:36 +0100, Mike Auty wrote:
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Hiya,
Reading over the discussion on lkml, it appears that it only affects
x86_64 systems...
Mike 5:)
Mine is an x86_64 system...it also only seems to affect early adopters
of
snip
Er, no, I'm explaining why enforcing src_test for EAPI 1 will be
helpful for an awful lot of Gentoo developers.
except that you back the tree into a corner that it cannot come out of
Huh? Not at all. If a package can't use its test suite, the ebuild can
set RESTRICT=test.
snip
The *only* downside that I can see here is that by default the package
installation process gets a little longer. To get around this some
method of globally opting out of src_test should be provided to the end
user, however since it is an on by default feature someone at least has
On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 10:00 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
There's a ChangeLog file in profiles/ChangeLog now. Please use it when
making changes to things in profiles/*...
Should we prefer this location for trees that already have a ChangeLog
in them as well? It's
On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 17:37 +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 07:19:44PM +0200 or thereabouts, Alin Nastac wrote:
I say we should have +all (SPF-capable MTAs will consider any IP address
as authorized to send mail on behalf of g.o - equivalent with Message
source OK).
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 19:16 +0200, Lionel Bouton wrote:
Josh Saddler wrote the following on 03.10.2006 18:11 :
(...)
Lionel
Uh, Gentoo-wiki does not get linked.
Are there many trying to link to the Gentoo Wiki in official
documentation? It seems guns are warm and devs quick to jump to
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 18:42 -0400, Alec Warner wrote:
This whole thread is quite disappointing to me. Someone comes up with a
new way to use Gentoo; to make it a viable tool for a job; to make it
USEFUL. This is what we are about here (or were?).
Put another way, the Gentoo philosophy is
On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 00:56 +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
First step should imho be, that you work with the Portage team on having
proper set support implemented. Current meta ebuilds do suck, really.
No need for meta ebuilds...stage4 specs + catalyst.
--Dan
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On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 15:03 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 18:49 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
I am just wondering, how does this affect European developers? Does this
make us financially active in the US even if we work for a European
company due to the fact that
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 21:23 -0700, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 15:03 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 18:49 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
I am just wondering, how does this affect European developers? Does this
make us financially active in the US
One last reminder...this weekend is the last weekend polls are open.
Polls close at 00:00 UTC on Monday the 11th so if you haven't voted yet
now is the time...lets see if we can break the 50% turnout mark!
--Dan
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So yeah, buy him a pint and welcome him onboard!
SMTP, IMAP and POP3 don't support that.
/snip
What...you have never heard of PPP, the Pint to Pint protocol...
(Sorry about this clear waste of bandwidth...it's early and my pun
senses still have control of my fingers...)
--Dan
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 01:22 +0100, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote:
Hailing from Pittsburgh, PA, the cognitive science department at
Carnegie Mellon University comes Mike Kelly aka pioto. Already known by
some of us from his excellent work on dynusers[1] during this years
Summer of Code he now comes
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 17:08 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 05:51:07AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the
2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @
irc.freenode.net) !
Is this the
snip
I like this option better than sticking another file into the public
tree that no user will ever need.
Instead, modifying the eclass metadata and adding two new keys, that
users will never need is fine? :)
This isn't really user data, tiz developer data; thus the user bit
On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 20:55 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
Lance Albertson wrote:
Anyways, I'm not going to take any more flame bait since I'm sick and
tired of this shit.
And my intention was not to revive that precise debate. I'm just saying
that for the leader (or strong council) to
snip
Some notes on some of the other people from my POV..
-- Busy/Next Year/Other --
dostrow (not around enough)
/snip
I'd agree that my availability over the past 6 months has been spotty at
best. I was ramping up for a cross country move and all that that
entails as well as dealing with a
After mulling it over for a bit I think I could actually do some good
here. Plus another name in the hat makes the elections that much more
interestingas my campaign pledge I promise to establish a developer
juice bar (I tried for the ice cream machine but the lactose intolerance
lobby is just
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 19:04 -0400, Luis Francisco Araujo wrote:
Stephen Bennett wrote:
Continuing in the series of issues raised during the previous package
manager discussions, I'd like to continue by mentioning the tree
format. At present, it isn't defined beyond what the current portage
Comments inline ...
On Sat, 2006-06-10 at 13:37 +0200, Markus Ullmann wrote:
Okay, so after figuring out open problems (thanks to kloeri and various
other people for help here), we now have a resolution that should
satisfy all involved parties here. This should adress dostrow's demands
as
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 20:12 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
Peper wrote:
well. A couple of examples:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122500
And again, you use my project of an example. Perhaps you should try
looking at something that actually supports your argument?
I think it's an
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 14:46 -0500, James Potts wrote:
On 6/9/06, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 19:10 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
Markus Ullmann wrote:
Maybe that way we avoid any misunderstandings, nearly doubled posts and
repeating ourselves over
snip
Your claim, specifically, was It *is* essential if paludis were to
ever be used for release building.. There is more than one way to skin
a cat, and some of those ways don't involve getting blood all over the
floor.
/snip
Unfortunately in this case there is only one cat, he has only one
,
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On Friday 24 March 2006 15:06, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
On Friday 24 March 2006 14:35, Grant Goodyear wrote:
After reading through that fairly lengthy thread, I'm afraid that I can
no longer tell exactly what is being proposed. Who has read access?
Who has write access? Bugs are handled where
) -or- it is an Official overlay with official support which means it
needs to abide by the rules...
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official the overlays actually were, e.g. how prone
the team looking after the overlay would be to accepting bugs via the usual
b.g.o channels etc.
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your point about needing to manually change the packages
that do explicitly state mirror://gentoo in their SRC_URI, but given that you
would have to do the above anyway
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On Monday 06 March 2006 13:18, Simon Stelling wrote:
Daniel Ostrow wrote:
Hrm, /me thinks you are missing something there, almost the entire tree
doesn't explicitly state the mirror://gentoo SRC_URI, portage handles
that automatically. That being the case portage would have change so
not really (don't mean to trivialize the work that
Mr_Bones_ does). It is something that I believe we need so lets all help
with the transition instead of fighting it.
Thanks,
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I'll contact the council separately, and ask that they look at two
things:
a) What the QA team is and isn't empowered to do
b) The approval process that the QA team must follow before imposing
tree-wide changes on other developers.
According to prior council meeting logs:
15:14 @vapier QA
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 21:54 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 13:29 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
Simply tell the user to download X and place it in $DISTDIR renaming it
to X-foo-bar, where's you've chosen X-foo-bar to avoid conflicts.
That works for me.
Best regards,
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 22:17 +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 17:02 -0500, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
That would work for fetch restricted packages, not nomirrored ones.
--Dan
/me nods. That's what we'll have to do. Unfortunately, it leaves users
with a worse experience
reading it that weren't involed in the implementaiton so that know
that unless the repo is actually named 'repoid' no such file will exist.
Thanks and +1,
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'Board of
Directors' in this book is.
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. That
is something we cannot and will not do.
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-mail, it is a question of culpability do to the
facilitation of an illegal act, a crime in and of itself, nothing more,
nothing less. Sure we wouldn't be shipping the actual source, but what
we would be doing is facilitating your use of said source, which is
*illegal*.
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down *before* we get any
further in discussion.
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the text links below each advertisement
graphic also be underlined. The implication of the current text is that
they are not links at all when they are.
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and developers alike will still be able to generate
them on their own using catalyst and the provided spec files...sure it
is an extra step and all but it's not all that huge...
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| The deadline for submitting items for the meeting agenda is set to
| Sunday, November 13th, 20:00 UTC.
Assuming there aren't any further comments between now and then, I'd
like GLEP 34 (GLEP File Hosting) to be approved please.
I assume you meant 43 yes?
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a client side tool that can identify what is installed
already...why not use it?
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a client side tool that can identify what is installed
already...why not use it?
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On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 14:02 -0500, Daniel Ostrow wrote:
[snip]
After going through the list, I got the impression there is simply no
place where such messages clearly would go. gentoo-announce sounds as
the best option to go for, but its description somehow suggests not.
Though
contain links to any relevant *documentation* which would then be
governed by the GDP if said documentation was in fact Gentoo created and
in the official Docs repository.
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bitness where it would work
looses functionality unnecessarily.
Yeah I know this adds a whole additional layer of complexity to the
picture but seeing how DEPEND=!arch? ( use? ( app-foo/bar ) ) is
against policy there has to be some way to control it.
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Daniel Ostrow
Gentoo Foundation Board
On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 13:47 -0500, Brian Harring wrote:
2.0.51_rc4
And by 2.0.51_rc4 he really meant 2.0.53_rc4. :)
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far better
then ppc64 vs. ppc as the dev/user base is far larger) but I think that
it is something to move towards if the ratio is close enough even if it
means denying some functionality to one group or the other until some
bugs are solved.
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snip
Who is the other husband/wife developer team?
Well before she left and he went MIA there was Eric and Aida Sammer...
Regards,
Aron
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for the heads up.
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First of all there are a lot of questions to answer:
- Who can do the certification?
- What must be done to become certified?
- What hardwaretypes will IBM offer
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