Re: [gentoo-dev] Google SOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 27-02-2008 10:46:43 +, Roy Marples wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:42:05 +0100, Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > - baselayout porting to Prefix (mostly the start stop mechanisms) > > What start stop mechanics do you mean? > > OpenRC alre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google SOC 2008

2008-02-27 Thread Fabian Groffen
the above things where I don't step on others' toes, yes. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing default-darwin profiles

2008-02-24 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 14-02-2008 20:21:05 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: > I basically want to finish the job by removing the entire default-darwin > directory from the profiles directory. It's done. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 -> x86_64

2008-02-22 Thread Fabian Groffen
t care, but amd64-macos just doesn't make any sense to me, and em64t is just as bad as (if not worse than) amd64. I could even live with i64, even though that might get confused with ia64. Long story short, in the end it's just a keyword, so nothing life threathening. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keyword amd64 -> x86_64

2008-02-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
think this keyword should have something more generic arch instead, like the x64 we use in prefix now. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Removing default-darwin profiles

2008-02-14 Thread Fabian Groffen
and the keyword + profile from arch.list and profiles.desc. Also, do I forget anything? -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: adding support for running eautoconf to base.eclass

2008-02-13 Thread Fabian Groffen
ce extra deps/caution (e.g. gettext macros being available) So I'd prefer to keep it quite clear that this is happening, instead of hiding it somewhere in an obscure corner of the ebuild. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to steal your tools

2008-02-03 Thread Fabian Groffen
walker- a script that walks over all packages and runs eupdate on them doupdates - helper to approve/commit updates in the correct order approve - script that does the actual user input and repoman commit -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2008 Google Summer of Code

2008-01-31 Thread Fabian Groffen
l for me on my desktop, so let's first see if we get selected this year and then if we have people without enough inspiration. Thanks. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2008 Google Summer of Code

2008-01-31 Thread Fabian Groffen
27; doesn't get a competant proposal written by a student it > is not going to get funded, end of story. Is there a place were devs can just throw in 'ideas'? I have a couple in mind, so it would be great if there was a place where interested "students" can g

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Fabian Groffen
t would get dropped from system. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-27 Thread Fabian Groffen
els up). Is it possible to have a CVS server-side commit check to see if digest files were added, and if so to reject the commit? -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Concerns about WIPE_TMP change

2008-01-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
uld solve the problem... Mike already added an elog, so it's done. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming Infra maintenance/downtimes: anon{cvs,svn,git}, archives, bouncer, overlays

2008-01-19 Thread Fabian Groffen
ell people to use > svn:// and git://, but if you're behind a stupid firewall, there is also > http:// available. I know of at least two cases where people have to go through a (corporate) firewall, so I fully second this suggestion. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming Infra maintenance/downtimes: anon{cvs,svn,git}, archives, bouncer, overlays

2008-01-18 Thread Fabian Groffen
is weekend, so people are told to switch. At the same time I can update the bootstrap images/snapshot and scripts to use the new scheme, and install a prefix-portage that uses/supports the new scheme. Thanks. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming Infra maintenance/downtimes: anon{cvs,svn,git}, archives, bouncer, overlays

2008-01-18 Thread Fabian Groffen
/ Thanks, I'll priorise on that to get it rolling. Thanks a lot! -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming Infra maintenance/downtimes: anon{cvs,svn,git}, archives, bouncer, overlays

2008-01-18 Thread Fabian Groffen
ave other people in the dark, ending up (needlessly) rebootstrapping. If a transition period would be available, I could make Portage alarm users to fix the SYNC variable to reflect the new URL. I also need to add/fix/change Portage's support for this new URL scheme. -- Fabian Groffen G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-12 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 11-01-2008 21:52:08 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 08 January 2008, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > - sort out the 64-bits targets with their multilib-hell forced upon us > > dont know exactly what you're referring to, but multilib is completely > optional. h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Item for 10 Jan 2008 Council meeting

2008-01-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
he second time) handle a case like this one, and not someone else from devrel? I have a hard time to take your message as an objective and unbiased one. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
oo and up-to-date. Eclass changes, package changes, all just got better. > What are we going to do: Probably trying to keep it up-to-date like it is right now, and try to be the best distro for GNUstep users. Of course we'll hope that Etoile becomes less buggy and more usable. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
s SVN support patch acceptable for the trunk (not much benefit for us at the moment, though) - (most probably) go crazy -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Fabian Groffen
ble. Even with the example you gave in the previous mail, it looks like a perfect succession of EAPIs. However, I realise that this discussion is stricktly said off-topic for the GLEP at hand, as this stuff hasn't been dealt with in the main tree (yet). In the end I guess it's a mat

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Fabian Groffen
I'm strugling myself with how EAPI will eventually allow for "Prefix" to enter the main tree (or not), if ever. Currently the combination in EAPI serves me pretty well, and hence yes, if this GLEP gets accepted I'll have to find another way to achieve the same as it's not going to work well in the extention. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Fabian Groffen
APIs are not orderable, I get the impression you imply these "combinations" of EAPIs to be desirable. In that case, what would the extension of the ebuild be like? -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-11 Thread Fabian Groffen
e would be to make EAPI1, EAPI2 etc. subdirs in the eclass directory where sort of eclass overloading can be done. This would only solve eclasses not to have an EAPI= in it, so they don't overwrite the ebuild's value. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
fix overlay, e.g. http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/alt/browser/trunk/prefix-overlay/app-shells/bash/bash-3.2_p17-r00.1.ebuild It has the advantage for me that EAPI is never hidden away somewhere down the ebuild, and it is just inserted by a simple bash script automagically (eapify in this case). -- Fabi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-db/monetdb: ChangeLog metadata.xml monetdb-4.20.0.ebuild monetdb-5.2.0.ebuild monetdb-4.10.2.ebuild monetdb-4.12.0.ebuild

2007-11-06 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 06-11-2007 04:03:32 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 10:44:07AM +0000, Fabian Groffen (grobian) wrote: > > Index: monetdb-4.20.0.ebuild > ... > > DEPEND="dev-libs/libpcre > > dev-libs/openssl > > sys-libs/readline > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-05 Thread Fabian Groffen
ointed out, we sort of all agree that scripts outside of portage should be POSIX sh. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
r a relatively small part of Gentoo as a whole. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New staff : Elias Pipping (pipping)

2007-10-27 Thread Fabian Groffen
doesn't like to travel. He doesn't have a TV and reads only > programming-related books. He enjoys english and frequently goes to > the movies. > > Please everybody, give a very warm welcome to Elias. Yay! Welcome to my^W^Wthe team! -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-misc/note: ChangeLog note-1.3.3.ebuild

2007-10-15 Thread Fabian Groffen
sn't do what you expect it to. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] integrating solaris overlay into main portage

2007-10-10 Thread Fabian Groffen
m are you using? I know of three such systems, that's why I'm asking. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-07 Thread Fabian Groffen
i.e. via something like #2). If you want a GNU userland on FreeBSD, Solaris, Darwin, etc. I think you should look at Prefix where [[ ${USERLAND} == "GNU" ]] always holds. ;) -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-07 Thread Fabian Groffen
userland are being seen as one. I think it would be very easy to install all GNU equivalents of tools on BSD in some separate dir, put it in portage's DEFAULT_PATH before /bin and /usr/bin and all would work perfectly well from the ebuild/eclass perspective. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: gnustep-base.eclass

2007-10-05 Thread Fabian Groffen
key=\$2 > > + val=\$3 > > + echo " * setting \${dom} \${key}" > > + defaults write \${dom} \${key} \${val} > > +} > > + > > +echo "Applying ${P} default configuration ..." > > +EOF > > + > > There's gotta be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-03 Thread Fabian Groffen
4.2.27 Features enabled: D_TYPE O_NOFOLLOW(enabled) LEAF_OPTIMISATION [horus:/export/scratch/gentoo] % uname -a FreeBSD horus 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 i386 Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron FreeBSD -- Fab

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 02-10-2007 12:00:12 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: > Infact, if we're not interested in portable code why bother with > Gentoo/ALT in the first place? Our code /IS/ portable, that's why you and me have a working Gentoo/Alt system at the moment. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
n't force it down on anyone, we only use it to install a package for you. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
compiled with GCC, what are the benefits exactly if you change that into "should be compiled with a C99 compliant compiler", considering you are eventually interested in the produced code only. (Is it worth it to teach/force devs to use something else if this is only how to obtain the end product, which should run with "anything"?) -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
ion is just to get (Free)BSD working seamlessly with Gentoo, or whether you also look beyond your current scope to the "Meta Distribution". This includes the benefit of moving from bash to POSIX(?) sh as standard kit to interpret the meta information. Changing init.d scripts is one thing, changing the definition of how the meta information should be read is another thing. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
;m interested in your motivation to make this eclass "pure sh", whatever that may mean. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: stripping out the DO NOT REPLY from bugzie emails

2007-09-29 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 29-09-2007 14:11:54 +, Duncan wrote: > Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 > 12:01:39 +0200: > > > On 29-09-2007 02:29:21 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 09:2

Re: [gentoo-dev] stripping out the DO NOT REPLY from bugzie emails

2007-09-29 Thread Fabian Groffen
rg/show_bug.cgi?id=181172 Isn't that tackled suffiently now by setting a bogus reply-to header? -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] stripping out the DO NOT REPLY from bugzie emails

2007-09-29 Thread Fabian Groffen
7;/^DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL/,+2d' Thanks. Most annoying is the many empty lines for normal comment mails that were added. You *must* scroll down now to just read the contents. Just removing those from the template (like it used to be, and is for the other kind of mails) would already help

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Michael Haubenwallner (haubi)

2007-09-14 Thread Fabian Groffen
not that kind) and couldn't find anything > suspicious. Except... hold on... what's that Gentoo thing? ;o) > > Let's all welcome him later today on #gentoo-dev at around 1300 UTC. wt!!!! Welcome Micheal! (No way back for you now.) -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new gnustep eclasses

2007-08-11 Thread Fabian Groffen
and report any feedback to us. For convenience I also attached the diffs made between the first post and this post. Thanks for all remarks made sofar. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level # Copyright 1999-2007 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Pu

Re: [gentoo-dev] New (old) Developer: Dimitry Brad (diox)

2007-07-29 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 29-07-2007 22:26:54 +0200, Christian Heim wrote: ... > So please welcome Dimitry as a new (old) fellow developer among us ! Welkom! -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] laying out arch profiles

2007-07-09 Thread Fabian Groffen
This is not relevant to the big public, I guess. However, might be worth to keep it in the back of your head when designing new profile structures, such that it in some way or another can be put into the model using the same structure. Thanks [1] http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/alt/browser/tru

[gentoo-dev] Last rites mail-client/muttng

2007-06-03 Thread Fabian Groffen
Masked mail-client/muttng pending removal, unless someone steps up/takes over. Removal after 30 days. On 26-05-2007 10:52:07 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: > Hi all, > > mail-client/muttng currently sits in the tree as some sort of orphan. > It used to be a fork of Mutt, having

[gentoo-dev] Intentions to remove mail-client/muttng from the tree

2007-05-26 Thread Fabian Groffen
e. If you are using muttng now, consider moving to the latest Mutt. Please speak up now if there are major reasons to keep muttng in the tree, despite being unmaintained and out of date. -- Fabian Groffen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-25 Thread Fabian Groffen
Hi Grant, Rémi and Yuri, On 25-04-2007 20:30:45 -0500, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:39:47 +0200 > Rémi Cardona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Grant Goodyear a écrit : > > > Fabian Groffen wrote: [Sat Apr 14 2007, 03:33:03AM CDT] > > >&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-25 Thread Fabian Groffen
Hereby I would like to request the counsel to discuss this mini-GLEP in the first meeting for which this request is in time. On 14-04-2007 10:33:03 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 14-04-2007 01:19:41 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:32:12AM +0100, Steve L

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-21 Thread Fabian Groffen
diffs > - not uncommon for people to contact me as the maintainer because i'm in that > - wastes space (well, probably not a strong argument due to bytes vs blocks) > - for mostly green users, it's confusing and they get it wrong -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 20-04-2007 09:11:10 -0500, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:52:46 +0200 > Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is the info you need in CVS/ ? > > > > That requires: > > a) an up-to-date CVS tree checkout > > b) a CVS tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
a CVS tree (not a regular rsynced one) c) parsing of the CVS/Entries file So in principle, yes I think it can be done using the CVS directory, but I prefer not to. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] $Header:$ and ebuilds

2007-04-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
can easily sync, keeping my local changes. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-14 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 14-04-2007 01:19:41 -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 07:32:12AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: > > Fabian Groffen wrote: > > > This GLEP has been laying around for some long time now in my gleps dir. > > > I nearly forgot about it. Anyw

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slacker archs

2007-02-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
sed up because of ppc-macos packages. I'm working on a list given to me by Diego to fix the ppc-macos mess, but I still got 500 to go it seems. Just feel free to assign a bug to us (well, me) so I might be able to move the packages that give problems up in the priority list. -- Fabian

Re: [gentoo-dev] New emul-libs.eclass

2007-02-19 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 19-02-2007 18:12:42 +0100, Simon Stelling wrote: > Simon Stelling wrote: > >I'll use cp -pPr. > > Actually -dpPR, which is what -a is an alias for. Yes, but -d is a GNU option, and BSD people are after the POSIX only options, hence the -pPR. :) -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] New emul-libs.eclass

2007-02-19 Thread Fabian Groffen
a imho For my understanding, what's wrong with cp -pPR? -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] [treequake] virtual/mysql addition

2006-11-22 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 23-11-2006 00:12:45 +, Francesco Riosa wrote with possible deletions: > Also if you are the maintainer of one of the mentioned [5] packages > please avoid version bumps until tomorrow when I'll apply the changes to > the tree (see [2] for an explanation) [snip] > [5] > profiles/default-dar

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