Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] iconv and libintl virtuals

2005-12-11 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 18:02 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Okay now that virtual/x11 introduced the new generation's virtuals, the decision of waiting to have virtuals for iconv and libintl can be considered concluded, and we might start adding them, right? :D Proposed virtuals

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc binutils -aware hackers wanted for questions ;)

2005-11-30 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 02:29 +0100, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: Hello, I've been looking some at Michael Meeks -Bdirect patches, and the possible performance boost they could give. The good parts here is that it seems to be far less intrusive for the running system than prelink

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc binutils -aware hackers wanted for questions ;)

2005-11-28 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 17:56 -0800, Bret Towe wrote: So, now I'm just asking for comments and/or discussion here.. would it be worth the time spent on this? http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2005-10/msg00436.html looks interesting personally id like to see how it acts on kde also and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Sat, 2005-11-26 at 12:50 -0500, Ned Ludd wrote: Good afternoon, probably in portage-2.0.54 a patch will be added to emit split debug info. Having a split debug allows us to retain all the advantages of stripping executables while gaining the ability to properly debug executables in bfd

Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature

2005-11-20 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:55 -0800, Michael Marineau wrote: However changing this will also lead to many supprises and tick off many users who don't know why a bunch of flags just vanished. How about we leave the feature in portage but remove auto from USE_ORDER in the 2006.0 profile and put a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Welcome Back, Cummings

2005-11-07 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 11:11 -0500, Seemant Kulleen wrote: So, please join me in a hearty Welcome Back for Michael Cummings. Yey! Great news :) //Spider , Who's too fed up with bureaucrazy to willingly submit himself to devrel. :-) -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-25 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 22:51 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: | Why? Because they just install the hard RDEPEND, so if you have a system | installed from binaries, you get working linking, but nothing will | compile

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
Welcome aboard, We don't bite.. Much. (usually we only stab people, and that's mostly due to bad puns like those of lu_zero ;) //Spider -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: CHTEKK

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 16:12 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Monday 24 October 2005 15:03, Spider (D.m.D. Lj.) wrote: (usually we only stab people, and that's mostly due to bad puns like those of lu_zero ;) Strange that I'm still around then... oh, you're not.. You just haven't

[gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
okay, this came up in a discussion today, and I figured it was time to mention something about it here: If your package, libFoo, installs .h files that directly require header files from libBar, then you have a Runtime dependency on libBar, not only a compile time dependency Why? Because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.

2005-10-24 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
- - Binary packages don't require the header packages. Theese are the main cause of pain in situations like this. Why? Because they just install the hard RDEPEND, so if you have a system installed from binaries, you get working linking, but nothing will compile for the system. Theese level

Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X - 7.0 RC1

2005-10-20 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 00:11 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The first release candidate was announced roughly 12 hours ago. And fitting the Gentoo you know as up to the minute, so far beyond the bleeding edge that it's wearing a Band-Aid before it

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-20 Thread Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 22:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:19 pm, Dave Nebinger wrote: i still dont see how this addresses the nocxx / USE=-* noFOO is used because FOO is on by default, and noFOO turns it off. AutoUSE is the same way, package bar is