Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-20 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 Ivan Chernyavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I've subscribed to this list because I thought this is the right way to start being involved in Gentoo development process --- I thought technical discussions are of most importance

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-20 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:48:02 + Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 | * have some insane paranoid conviction that Freenode staff are the | ones busy spying on everything they say, whilst

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-20 Thread Thomas Pani
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Mike Auty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm quite happy to continue working in a friendly helpful environment, where simple questions are most often met with patient answers and people are given the chance to learn, improve and help out where they can. I'm happy to keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:40:47 +0200 Thomas Pani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But people will never agree on where to draw that line. While Mike wants a friendly helpful environment, where simple questions are most often met with patient answers and people are given the chance to learn, improve and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-20 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 07:30 +0100, George Prowse wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:48:02 + Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 | * have some insane paranoid conviction that Freenode staff

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-20 Thread Patrick Börjesson
On 2008-06-20 07:25, George Prowse uttered these thoughts: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 Ivan Chernyavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I've subscribed to this list because I thought this is the right way to start being involved in Gentoo development process

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-20 Thread Sergio D. Rodríguez Inclan
How much _technical_ discussion have you seen on the list lately? That's right, this thread belongs to gentoo-project or gentoo-flamewars or gentoo-give-me-a-break mailing list ;) -- Sergio D. Rodríguez Inclan

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-20 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:10:56PM +, Ferris McCormick wrote: No, for two reasons. No one is named, and you can't libel anonymous. A group of people is named though, but we're getting into discussions about details here. Also if it's true, it's not libel. Is it? Ciaran failed to provide

[gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Ivan Chernyavsky
Dear Gentoo developers, I am a grateful Gentoo user, I'm pretty happy with Gentoo and already have five installations of it, including one running a pilot project at my work. I started working with Linux 6 years ago and came through RH-SuSE-Ubuntu. None of them (except maybe SuSE 9.0 for some

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Andreas Aronsson
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Ivan Chernyavsky wrote: Dear Gentoo developers, I am a grateful Gentoo user, I'm pretty happy with Gentoo and already have five installations of it, including one running a pilot project at my work. I started working with Linux 6 years ago and came through RH-SuSE-Ubuntu.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Benedikt Morbach
++ I'm a user too and I really find it annoying that one can't read this list to keep up with recent development, without digging to tons of FUD, insults and other crap. I personally came to the conclusion that it is best to simply ignore all mails from certain people (hint: Most of them were

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Bernd Steinhauser
Benedikt Morbach schrieb: ++ I'm a user too and I really find it annoying that one can't read this list to keep up with recent development, without digging to tons of FUD, insults and other crap. I personally came to the conclusion that it is best to simply ignore all mails from certain people

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 Ivan Chernyavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I've subscribed to this list because I thought this is the right way to start being involved in Gentoo development process --- I thought technical discussions are of most importance here. You are sadly

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Constantine D. Kardaris
++ first posts People keep trolling and there is none to make them stop and that's sad to watch happening for years. I'd like to involve also thats y i subscribed but really whats the motivation to do so? Feels like all those discussions with users that have been made last year have been just

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread RB
Regardless of the points being made or their validity, this is the long-standing problem with Gentoo: excessive pride and ego and too little inability to cooperate internally, much less externally. Too many people are treating every discussion (turned argument) as life-or-death and are unwilling

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 | * have some insane paranoid conviction that Freenode staff are the ones | busy spying on everything they say, whilst conveniently forgetting to | notice that Gentoo's own infra team and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:48:02 + Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:56 +0400 | * have some insane paranoid conviction that Freenode staff are the | ones busy spying on everything they say, whilst conveniently | forgetting

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:42:51 +0100 Mike Auty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yet still you keep fighting? Why? Because unlike pretty much everyone else around here, I haven't given up on Gentoo. I still think it can have a future. What do you *need* from Gentoo that you can't get for yourself? I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Jan Kundrát
Benedikt Morbach wrote: retired and work on an alternative package manager and a certain dokument where they try to set gentoo standards from the outside. Please stop spreading FUD about PMS forcing some standards over Gentoo. Get your facts straight before commenting any further, thanks.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Thomas Rösner
Hi, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:42:51 +0100 Mike Auty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yet still you keep fighting? Why? Because unlike pretty much everyone else around here, I haven't given up on Gentoo. I still think it can have a future. If you really think

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:11:18 +0200 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:42:51 +0100 Mike Auty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yet still you keep fighting? Why? Because unlike pretty much everyone else around here, I haven't given up on Gentoo. I still think it can have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-06-19 Thread Graham Murray
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * dismiss any technical criticism as being a 'corner case'. And not appreciate that addressing the 'corner cases' is very important and not to be dismissed. I have been a software developer (though not a Gentoo one) for 30 years, and learnt that lesson

[gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Google Summer of Code 2008 is on!]

2008-02-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
I'm willing to help if help is wanted. -g2boojum- - Forwarded message from LH (Leslie Hawthorn) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: LH (Leslie Hawthorn) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:50:03 -0800 (PST) To: Google Summer of Code Announce [EMAIL

[gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED] exists

2008-01-21 Thread Torsten Veller
* Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 21 January 2008, Thomas Kahle wrote: i'm not sure if this is the right place for my question, if not, please tell me the right one. i dont think there's a mailing list for this stuff, but there is an irc channel (#gentoo-dev-help iirc)

[gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-01-08 Thread mehul

[gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New developer William L. Thomson Jr (wltjr)]

2006-09-09 Thread Bryan Østergaard
Hi all. I'm Slightly late but proud to present another addition to the hard working java team. William has been helping the java team with bug fixes and user support for quite a while and was finally made official a month ago. William hails from CA, USA and also participated in the recent Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New developer William L. Thomson Jr (wltjr)]

2006-09-09 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Few additions ;) On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 23:29 +, Bryan Østergaard wrote: William has been helping the java team with bug fixes and user support for quite a while and was finally made official a month ago. Mostly Tomcat related stuff. William hails from CA Hailed for like 10 yrs in CA,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New developer William L. Thomson Jr (wltjr)]

2006-09-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 09 September 2006 19:46, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: Don't want to be misleading or anything :) aka he's a lamer -mike pgpQwrqf3hY8B.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New developer William L. Thomson Jr (wltjr)]

2006-09-09 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 20:06 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 09 September 2006 19:46, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: Don't want to be misleading or anything :) aka he's a lamer I bet you say that about all the guys that turn ya down ;) -- William L. Thomson Jr. Gentoo/Java

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New developer William L. Thomson Jr (wltjr)]

2006-09-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 21:28 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 20:06 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 09 September 2006 19:46, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: Don't want to be misleading or anything :) aka he's a lamer I bet you say that about all the