Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-21 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-05-20 20:00:43 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Wed, 20 May 2009 19:12:56 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: This error occurs only when there is no up-to-date cache for given ebuild. rsync users would see only the usual masked by: EAPI 3 message. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 21 May 2009 19:57:49 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: We always have to assume that there might not be an up to date cache. The Gentoo rsync mirrors do not always ship up to date cache, particularly if someone's just changed a widely used eclass.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 20 May 2009 19:12:56 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org wrote: This error occurs only when there is no up-to-date cache for given ebuild. rsync users would see only the usual masked by: EAPI 3 message. We always have to assume that there might not be an up to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-20 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-05-17 19:02:02 Piotr Jaroszyński napisał(a): 2009/5/17 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com: 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com wrote: I would like to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-20 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-05-20 19:29:12 Piotr Jaroszyński napisał(a): 2009/5/20 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org: 2009-05-17 19:02:02 Piotr Jaroszyński napisał(a): 2009/5/17 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com: 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-20 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
2009/5/20 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org: 2009-05-17 19:02:02 Piotr Jaroszyński napisał(a): 2009/5/17 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com: 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
I would like to suggest to include possibility of using of features of bash-4.0 (and older versions) in local scope of EAPI=3 ebuilds. I know that it's slightly late, but this change is very easy to implement (adjusting RDEPEND of new versions of package managers and updating PMS). -- Arfrever

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com wrote: I would like to suggest to include possibility of using of features of bash-4.0 (and older versions) in local scope of EAPI=3 ebuilds. I know that it's slightly late, but this change is very

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
2009/5/17 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com: I would like to suggest to include possibility of using of features of bash-4.0 (and older versions) in local scope of EAPI=3 ebuilds. This is glep 55 material. I will update it to reflect that. -- Best Regards, Piotr

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com wrote: I would like to suggest to include possibility of using of features of bash-4.0 (and older versions) in local scope of EAPI=3 ebuilds. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
2009/5/17 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com: 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com wrote: I would like to suggest to include possibility of using of features of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:58:58 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com wrote: No good, for two reasons. First, this is a global scope change Why do you think that it is a global scope change? Package managers still need to be able to get the EAPI, even if they

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Ben de Groot
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com wrote: I would like to suggest to include possibility of using of features of bash-4.0 (and older versions)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 17 May 2009 21:22:57 +0200 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: Why do you think that it is a global scope change? Because he wants to push GLEP 55. Ben, please stop that and apologise for your behaviour. It's already been explained why changing bash versions is a global scope

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
2009/5/17 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com wrote: I would like to suggest to include possibility of using of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Ben de Groot
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: 2009/5/17 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com wrote: I would like to suggest to