Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 07:09:20, Brian Harring wrote: One thing that just clicked in the skull on why flat-tree has issues; currently it's possible to have a package with the same name, yet a differing category (app-vim/sudo vs app-admin/sudo). Aa flat package namespace would necessitate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/05/2005-03:40:04(-0500): Brian Harring types On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:46:03AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: Here's my suggestion, for what it's worth :) The layout on disk and the semantics of categories do not need to be related. Yes and no. You're assuming that people

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 06:01:17PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 11/05/2005-03:40:04(-0500): Brian Harring types On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:46:03AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: Here's my suggestion, for what it's worth :) The layout on disk and the semantics of categories do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 06:01:17PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 11/05/2005-03:40:04(-0500): Brian Harring types On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:46:03AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: Here's my suggestion, for what it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 11:11:02AM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Yes and no. You're assuming that people don't use the layout on disk for digging around without calling portage. Personally, I do. Not need to be related, but shouldn't be related. In essence this allows people to put the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/05/2005-10:33:23(-0500): Brian Harring types The original request was having a package turn up in multiple categories for searching, right? Actually, that was a side effect. The original request was to stop moving packages around, which is the most annoying part and is also the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat tree where each package can go in multiple categories? That's something I'd love to see eventually... I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/05/2005-11:28:21(+0200): Martin Schlemmer types On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: Georgi Georgiev wrote: [Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat tree where each package can go in multiple

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 08:04:04PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 10/05/2005-11:28:21(+0200): Martin Schlemmer types On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 13:07 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: Georgi Georgiev wrote:[Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] Would it be inappropriate to start bitching

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/05/2005-22:30:56(-0500): Brian Harring types Re: having a package claimed by multiple categories... eh. yeah, that's a bit valid although I'd think it's either A) an indiciation our categories need to be adjusted a bit, or B) (hopefully) a rare case. :) No, no, please not A).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 01:27:46PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: As to whether the categories are good or not... think about it. If they were good, would we still be seeing packages moving around the tree? That's why I think that multiple categories are a necessity. Unless of course, packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-09 Thread Aron Griffis
Georgi Georgiev wrote: [Sun May 08 2005, 08:19:20PM EDT] Would it be inappropriate to start bitching (again) about a flat tree where each package can go in multiple categories? That's something I'd love to see eventually... I mean the flat tree, not the complaining ;-) Regards, Aron -- Aron

[gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread R Hill
Alin Nastac wrote: Hi folks, I think we should make a new category called app-cellphone containing the following packages: net-dialup/gammu net-dialup/gnokii net-dialup/wammu net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager Yes, I know. It is a short list, but shouldn't be a category representative for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Alin Nastac
R Hill wrote: this doesn't include anything like VOIP of course. btw i think cellphone is an Americanism. i worked for ATT Wireless before they were bought by Cingular and the term cellphone was discouraged for that reason. maybe just app-phone? hmm... I think it should include cell or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread W.Kenworthy
In Oz, cellphone is only used in american movies, here they are called mobile phones (formal), mobiles (common usage) and mob when written (e.g., Mob: 0419...) There's also the upcoming cell processor architecture that may clash in the future. How about app-mobphone or app-mobilephone or perhaps

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Lars Weiler
* Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/05/08 17:01 -0600]: You could always borrow from the Germans and call it app-handy. Yeah! That's pure Denglisch :) And while we are on it, add all packages for presentations into an app-beamer group ;-) Well, back on topic. Some of the suggested

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 08 May 2005 04:46 pm, Alin Nastac wrote: R Hill wrote: this doesn't include anything like VOIP of course. btw i think cellphone is an Americanism. i worked for ATT Wireless before they were bought by Cingular and the term cellphone was discouraged for that reason. maybe just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New category proposal

2005-05-08 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 09/05/2005-01:50:04(+0200): Lars Weiler types * Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/05/08 17:01 -0600]: You could always borrow from the Germans and call it app-handy. Yeah! That's pure Denglisch :) And while we are on it, add all packages for presentations into an app-beamer