maillog: 23/08/2005-16:57:28(-0400): Olivier Crete types
> I though about this thing last night, and frankly, I think its a lost
> cause. I remember that during the Gnome 1.x era, gnome-terminal used to
> set TERM=gnome (at least it did on Red Hat) and they had the proper
> termcap/terminfo entries
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:57:28 -0400 Olivier Crete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| As a gnome-terminal user, I've never had problems with anything that
| tried to use advanced xterm crap... probably because no uses them. If
| you want X stuff, just use a real X application (like gvim...). I'm
| strictly
On Tue, 2005-23-08 at 21:27 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 8:52:13 +0200 "Kevin F. Quinn"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | On 21/8/2005 23:05:05, Ciaran McCreesh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> | > Now the proposal. This isn't something that can happen immediately,
> | > but it's
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 8:52:13 +0200 "Kevin F. Quinn"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On 21/8/2005 23:05:05, Ciaran McCreesh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
| > Now the proposal. This isn't something that can happen immediately,
| > but it's something I'd like to see us working towards:
| >
| > [...]
| >
|
On 21/8/2005 23:05:05, Ciaran McCreesh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Now the proposal. This isn't something that can happen immediately, but
> it's something I'd like to see us working towards:
>
> [...]
>
> * De-cripple the standard xterm definition and remove restrictions from
> programs whic
On Sunday 21 August 2005 05:05 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> The terminfo method is provided by ncurses. It is considerably more
> powerful and has far fewer arbitrary restrictions upon database entry
> lengths. It is also less unmaintained than termcap.
actually it's actively maintained and the up
On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 23:13 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> The problem with this is that non-X boxes will be missing the terminfo
> descriptions.
Right.
> The problem with this is that some terminals gain new capabilities
> fairly regularly. One example is rxvt-unicode, which is still putting
>
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:00:26 +0200 Henrik Brix Andersen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > * Install, either with the terminal (as is done by rxvt-unicode
| > currently), or as part of ncurses, proper terminfo definitions for
| > these terminals.
|
| One could argue for both solutions here: it wou
On Sun, 2005-08-21 at 22:05 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
[snip good description of problem]
> Now the proposal. This isn't something that can happen immediately, but
> it's something I'd like to see us working towards:
>
> * Make everything that isn't xterm set its own TERM value. Possibly the
>
[ Please excuse the length... I'm making a proposal related to an issue
which isn't widely understood, and I think it's better to provide an
explanation straight off rather than watch this thread descend into
irrelevant arguments by people who don't have a clue about what's being
discussed. ]
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