Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 02 February 2006 20:55, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Yeah that would help. But in the mean time what should we do? What you should always do. Do the right thing, even if repoman disagrees. Seems like repoman is actually our boss in this case, so I was forced

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 02 February 2006 20:55, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: but also make sure that there's a bug filed describing how repoman is broken. FWIW, I've filed that bug and attached a patch that solves the issue by letting repoman load the *.desc files in profiles dir for the use-expanded variables.

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 February 2006 09:51, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Thursday 02 February 2006 20:55, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Yeah that would help. But in the mean time what should we do? What you should always do. Do the right thing, even if repoman

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 05 February 2006 21:34, Mike Frysinger wrote: that's retarded, please remove all such linguas_* crap from use.desc files I can, but then Mr_Bones_ will come back to me again and we're stuck in this loop. You can remove them, but then it's your turn with Mr_Bones_ about them. So here

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-05 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 05 February 2006 09:51, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Thursday 02 February 2006 20:55, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Yeah that would help. But in the mean time what should we do? What you should always do. Do the right thing, even if

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:43:58 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Sunday 05 February 2006 21:34, Mike Frysinger wrote: | that's retarded, please remove all such linguas_* crap from | use.desc files | | I can, but then Mr_Bones_ will come back to me again and we're stuck |

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 February 2006 15:43, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Sunday 05 February 2006 21:34, Mike Frysinger wrote: that's retarded, please remove all such linguas_* crap from use.desc files I can, but then Mr_Bones_ will come back to me again and we're stuck in this loop.

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 05 February 2006 22:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: You can remove them, but then it's your turn with Mr_Bones_ about them. done Thanks :) -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ Gentoo/ALT lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE pgp88DTyI0EEz.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-02 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 01 February 2006 01:55, Jason Stubbs wrote: However, if lang.desc already exists (and it does) and can be renamed to linguas.desc, it is probably a better way to manage it than use.desc. Yeah that would help. But in the mean time what should we do? If I commit something with

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-02-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 20:46:55 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Yeah that would help. But in the mean time what should we do? What you should always do. Do the right thing, even if repoman disagrees. Remember that repoman is there to try to help catch certain kinds of

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 30 January 2006 20:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:46:28 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Monday 30 January 2006 16:43, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:17:36 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Also, as

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 20:31:55 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | 1. Because for things like LINGUAS, there are arbitrarily many legal | values, and documenting them all and keeping the list up to date | would be extremely difficult. | | More precisely, how should they be documented

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 31 January 2006 06:31, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Monday 30 January 2006 20:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: 1. Because for things like LINGUAS, there are arbitrarily many legal values, and documenting them all and keeping the list up to date would be extremely difficult. More precisely,

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 31 January 2006 22:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 31 January 2006 06:31, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Monday 30 January 2006 20:54, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: 1. Because for things like LINGUAS, there are arbitrarily many legal values, and documenting them all and keeping the list

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Jason Stubbs wrote: Is having INPUT_DEVICES and the like following the same scheme (ie, input_devices.desc) acceptable? As long as I can still get the pretty output with -vp. =) Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 30 January 2006 14:17, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: [ebuild R ] media-tv/kdetv-0.8.8-r1 USE=-arts -debug -lirc -opengl -xinerama -zvbi LINGUAS=it% -bg% -br% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de% -el% -en_GB% -es% -et% -fi% -fr% -ga% -gl% -hu% -is% -lt% -mt% -nb% -nl% -pa% -pl% -pt%

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 30 January 2006 16:43, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:17:36 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Also, as repoman complain about linguas_blabla not being a valid | useflags, all the linguas_* useflags should be listed in use.desc No, part of

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:46:28 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Monday 30 January 2006 16:43, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:17:36 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Also, as repoman complain about linguas_blabla not being a valid | |

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Jakub Moc
30.1.2006, 12:46:28, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Monday 30 January 2006 16:43, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:17:36 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Petteno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Also, as repoman complain about linguas_blabla not being a valid | useflags, all the linguas_* useflags

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 30 January 2006 13:31, Jakub Moc wrote: maintaining lists of honored LINGUAS in each ebuild it just huge maintenance overhead with no gain... Well at least for the KDE ebuilds that does honour it in a non-automatic version, the list is anyway needed, as I said, I hadn't had to prepare

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 30 January 2006 12:43, Jason Stubbs wrote: Not a huge difference but not exactly minor either. And of course LINGUAS= wouldn't be shown at all if nothing had changed with regard to it and --verbose wasn't specified. That's a point to put them there, it's also quite interesting to see,

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 30 January 2006 06:17, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Defining LINGUAS variable would be useful to allow people to know whether they are going to have special support for their language in a package, but it would also clutter the output quite a bit. Okay then.. I'm still looking

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 January 2006 11:15, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Monday 30 January 2006 06:17, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Defining LINGUAS variable would be useful to allow people to know whether they are going to have special support for their language in a package, but it would

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 30 January 2006 17:38, Mike Frysinger wrote: it makes a the -pv output unreadable and thus useless ... although if you do something like -pvv, then the user can expect to get a lot of output ... emerge -p is now less useless than before so it make sense for -pv to show lot of stuff..

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 06:17:36AM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: [ebuild R ] media-tv/kdetv-0.8.8-r1 USE=-arts -debug -lirc -opengl -xinerama -zvbi LINGUAS=it% -bg% -br% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de% -el% -en_GB% -es% -et% -fi% -fr% -ga% -gl% -hu% -is% -lt% -mt% -nb% -nl% -pa% -pl%

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 January 2006 11:48, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Monday 30 January 2006 17:38, Mike Frysinger wrote: it makes a the -pv output unreadable and thus useless ... although if you do something like -pvv, then the user can expect to get a lot of output ... emerge -p is now

[gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-29 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
After reading Donnie's interesting post about how to set VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES in xorg 7, I wondered for a while if LINGUAS should have the same treatment. Defining LINGUAS variable would be useful to allow people to know whether they are going to have special support for their

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:17:36 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Also, as repoman complain about linguas_blabla not being a valid | useflags, all the linguas_* useflags should be listed in use.desc No, part of the point of USE_EXPAND is that they shouldn't. This is a