Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Since most of us want clean cut solution so i will close bug #333699 as WONTFIX Along these lines, I'm looking at 333531 (the git migration tracker), and it seems like there isn't actually much to do: 333685 - Seems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-26 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Ok. Since most of us want clean cut solution so i will close bug #333699 as WONTFIX -- Best Regards, Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, NRC Kurchatov Institute, Gatchina, Russia Department of Molecular and Radiation Biophysics Gentoo Team Ru Gentoo Linux Dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-25 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Fri, 25 May 2012, Kent Fredric wrote: On 25 May 2012 13:21, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: So I'm a bit confused. Is GitHub open source? Your confusion begets more confusion: Whether or not Github is open-source seems orthogonal to whether or not we use it, as github is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 18:12, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: Actually, Alec's question is not so far-fetched. The Gentoo Social Contract says that Gentoo will never depend upon a piece of software unless it is open source. Though in the case of github, gentoo is not depending upon it. Github

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-25 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 May 2012 18:12, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: Actually, Alec's question is not so far-fetched. The Gentoo Social Contract says that Gentoo will never depend upon a piece of software unless it is open

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Dan Douglas
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 07:56:58 AM Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 16:14:53 -0500 Dan Douglas orm...@gmail.com wrote: If not I will be leaving Gentoo for Funtoo in the near future, though there are disadvantages to doing this I don't look forward to dealing with. Most of us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 23-05-2012 a las 17:00 -0300, Ezequiel Garcia escribió: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 May 2012 05:35, Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Full clone will be about 1G or so but no more then 2. If we will drop changelog it will be much smaller And if you use git commit signing instead of ebuild manifests, intra-commit churn will almost be negligible. :D -- Kent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 May 2012 08:32, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Sure.  The slow commit rate encourages careful deliberation before hitting the enter key, which therefore improves quality. Then, if you do make a mistake the slow commit rate means that fixing that mistake can take a long time,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Kent Fredric писал 2012-05-24 13:02: On 24 May 2012 05:35, Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: Full clone will be about 1G or so but no more then 2. If we will drop changelog it will be much smaller And if you use git commit signing instead of ebuild manifests, intra-commit churn will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 May 2012 09:48, Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/23/2012 11:14 PM, Dan Douglas wrote: On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 04:47:04 PM Robin H. Johnson wrote: 2. rsync generation is NOT going away. Users will still be using it. First,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 24 May 2012 22:17:20 +1200 Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 May 2012 09:48, Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/23/2012 11:14 PM, Dan Douglas wrote: On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 04:47:04 PM Robin H. Johnson

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'. Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please. Also, there still should be a bug at b.g.o and git format-patch works just fine for that. Maybe it's only github now

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Ralph Sennhauser s...@gentoo.org wrote: Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please. Also, there still should be a bug at b.g.o and git format-patch works just fine for that. Maybe it's only github now but how many places is a developer supposed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 24 May 2012 17:02:24 +0200 Ralph Sennhauser s...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'. Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please. Yes, that's the intent. I'm just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ultrabug
On 24/05/2012 03:19, Mark Wright wrote: Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org writes: Clean cut turns of cvs access on a given and announced timestamp, rsync-generation/updates is suspended (no input - no changes), some magic scripts prepare the git repo (according to [3], some hours duration) and we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 03:02, Ralph Sennhauser s...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'. Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please. Definitely. But having a mirror on github will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/05/12 01:13 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 25 May 2012 03:02, Ralph Sennhauser s...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'. Can we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 24 May 2012 13:52:32 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: When the user has their tree up to how they want it, they can either send a pull request to another gentoo dev who also has a fork on github, or send a link to the commit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
...is this something we (as the developer base) WANT non-dev's to be able to do?? I would expect we'd want the tree to still be treated as read-only-not-modifyable by the rest of the gentoo/linux community, otherwise we're going to have a rather large mess on our hands (multiple forks of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/24/2012 06:52 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 24/05/12 01:13 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 25 May 2012 03:02, Ralph Sennhauser s...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: d) Talk with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Dan Douglas
On Thursday, May 24, 2012 01:52:32 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 24/05/12 01:13 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: On 25 May 2012 03:02, Ralph Sennhauser s...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
Am Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2012, 18:33:41 schrieb Michał Górny: On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:42:37 +0200 Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: *if you still read this* *wow* Please discuss my arguments and come to the conclusions to RESO/WONT-FIX testing git-cvsserver, make a clean cut and remove

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Dan Douglas
On 24/05/12 02:37 PM, Dan Douglas wrote: On Thursday, May 24, 2012 01:52:32 PM Ian Stakenvicius wrote: Of course it's read only - just like all other public repositories. You don't want to accept improvments? I don't understand this. I have no problem with accepting improvements,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Ralph Sennhauser s...@gentoo.org wrote: Can we keep the master on Gentoo hardware please. Also, there still should be a bug at b.g.o and git format-patch works just fine for that. Maybe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 May 2012 13:21, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: So I'm a bit confused. Is GitHub open source? Your confusion begets more confusion: Whether or not Github is open-source seems orthogonal to whether or not we use it, as github is a website, a service, and there are a few such

[gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing git-cvsserver [2]. There are two proposed scenarios how to migrate the developers write access to the portage tree. Clean cut turns of cvs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Johannes Huber
Am Mittwoch 23 Mai 2012, 14:42:37 schrieb Michael Weber: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing git-cvsserver [2]. There are two proposed scenarios how to migrate the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Ian Whyman
On May 23, 2012 1:55 PM, Johannes Huber j...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Mittwoch 23 Mai 2012, 14:42:37 schrieb Michael Weber: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Please discuss my arguments and come to the conclusions to RESO/WONT-FIX testing git-cvsserver, make a clean cut and remove this bug from the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git. +1 Please cut cvs support once and for all. -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer kde,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Aaron W. Swenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/23/2012 09:25 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Please discuss my arguments and come to the conclusions to RESO/WONT-FIX testing git-cvsserver, make a clean cut and remove this bug from the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Matthew Thode
On 05/23/2012 07:54 AM, Johannes Huber wrote: Am Mittwoch 23 Mai 2012, 14:42:37 schrieb Michael Weber: Hi, i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing git-cvsserver [2]. There are two proposed scenarios how to migrate the developers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Fabio Erculiani
Please kill CVS with fire! I've been waiting for this since 2009. -- Fabio Erculiani

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
+1 for killing cvs Johannes Huber писал 2012-05-23 15:54: Am Mittwoch 23 Mai 2012, 14:42:37 schrieb Michael Weber: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/23/2012 10:39 AM, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: +1 for killing cvs Looks like the bloodbath begins. I too am in favor of killing cvs. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 8040 5A4D 8709 21B1 1A88 33CE 979C AF40 D045 5535

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread justin
On 23/05/12 14:42, Michael Weber wrote: Hi, i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing git-cvsserver [2]. There are two proposed scenarios how to migrate the developers write access to the portage tree. Clean cut turns of cvs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 for git switch. git-cvsserver would make sense if it would be completely transparent for cvs client. and it's not. so why bother setuping fragile things? - -- Sergei -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:42:37 +0200 Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: *if you still read this* *wow* Please discuss my arguments and come to the conclusions to RESO/WONT-FIX testing git-cvsserver, make a clean cut and remove this bug from the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: Looks like the bloodbath begins.  I too am in favor of killing cvs. Please, let it die. I'll miss my scripts, but I'll gladly deal with that over whatever breakage comes along every time some cvs plugin messes up

Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:42:37 +0200 Kill it! And while we're at it, kill ChangeLogs as well! /me hides... +1 +1 +1 +1 ... -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer kde, sci, arm, tex, printing signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Michał Górny писал 2012-05-23 19:33: On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:42:37 +0200 Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: *if you still read this* *wow* Please discuss my arguments and come to the conclusions to RESO/WONT-FIX testing git-cvsserver, make a clean cut and remove this bug from the blockers of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 02:42:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote: i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing git-cvsserver [2]. There are two proposed scenarios how to migrate the developers write access to the portage tree. The primary

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Robin H. Johnson писал 2012-05-23 19:47: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 02:42:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote: i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing git-cvsserver [2]. There are two proposed scenarios how to migrate the developers write

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Justin
On 23.05.2012 18:47, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 02:42:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote: i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing git-cvsserver [2]. There are two proposed scenarios how to migrate the developers write

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: 2. Arches were Git repos are too heavy (Kumba wanted this for MIPS) Please don't go to this trouble for the ability to commit to portage on *really* slow systems.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Matt Turner писал 2012-05-23 19:59: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: 2. Arches were Git repos are too heavy (Kumba wanted this for MIPS) Please don't go to this trouble for the ability to commit to portage on *really* slow systems. Isnt cvs too

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Robin H. Johnson писал 2012-05-23 19:47: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 02:42:37PM +0200, Michael Weber wrote: i've looked at the blockers of [TRACKER] portage migration to git [1] and want to discuss testing git-cvsserver [2]. There are two proposed scenarios how to migrate the developers write

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:58:17PM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Isnt git works with shallow clone? like # git clone --depth 1 or any other desired value git+ssh://gitrepo.uri::repo So you can clone in this manner and push changes back Also for depth = 1 pack size will be similar to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Robin H. Johnson писал 2012-05-23 20:19: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:58:17PM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Isnt git works with shallow clone? like # git clone --depth 1 or any other desired value git+ssh://gitrepo.uri::repo So you can clone in this manner and push changes back Also for depth =

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: That isnt true =) you can commit from shallow clone  if and only if original repo doesnt have a branching and merging points before and after shallow clone point respectively Is that going to be a practical condition

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Rich Freeman писал 2012-05-23 20:32: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: That isnt true =) you can commit from shallow clone  if and only if original repo doesnt have a branching and merging points before and after shallow clone point respectively Is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 01:32:45PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Alexey Shvetsov ale...@gentoo.org wrote: That isnt true =) you can commit from shallow clone  if and only if original repo doesnt have a branching and merging points before and after shallow

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Alexey Shvetsov schrieb: Shallow clones are also read-only last I checked. That isnt true =) you can commit from shallow clone if and only if original repo doesnt have a branching and merging points before and after shallow clone point respectively There can also be breakage when someone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
-1 -- Rafael Goncalves Martins Gentoo Linux developer http://rafaelmartins.eng.br/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Arun Raghavan
I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's good enough for you. -- Arun Raghavan http://arunraghavan.net/ (Ford_Prefect | Gentoo)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's good enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's good enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 for git I am more used to it, I find it easier to use regarding the utilities as well as the gui and it is more consistent. The fact alone that I can update a single directory in CVS without updating all others can cause breakage, cause repoman

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Ezequiel Garcia
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's good enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Arun Raghavan писал 2012-05-23 22:37: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's good enough for you. CVS is damn slow. On every

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 01:07:08AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's good enough for you. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Ezequiel Garcia elezegar...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/23/2012 06:58 PM, Justin wrote: Was this a vote for or against a quick proceeding towards git? No, just to decide if git-cvsserver (providing cvs access) should be part of an git master tree szenario. In bugzie: Should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:25:54 -0500 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 01:07:08AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/23/2012 07:06 PM, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Isnt cvs too sloow on mips? git is much more faster. Same for arm. About big repos, well why not use shallow cloned repo. It will work with plane history Can we please cut that out. I do/did arch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:37:55PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:25:54 -0500 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 01:07:08AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Dan Douglas
On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 04:47:04 PM Robin H. Johnson wrote: 2. rsync generation is NOT going away. Users will still be using it. Would users have a way of gaining read-only access? This would be EXTREMELY helpful. If not I will be leaving Gentoo for Funtoo in the near future, though there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/23/2012 11:14 PM, Dan Douglas wrote: On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 04:47:04 PM Robin H. Johnson wrote: 2. rsync generation is NOT going away. Users will still be using it. First, I'd stick with the current rsync to spread the tree (mirror

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Mark Wright
Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org writes: Clean cut turns of cvs access on a given and announced timestamp, rsync-generation/updates is suspended (no input - no changes), some magic scripts prepare the git repo (according to [3], some hours duration) and we all checkout the tree (might be some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's good enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 23 May 2012 16:14:53 -0500 Dan Douglas orm...@gmail.com wrote: If not I will be leaving Gentoo for Funtoo in the near future, though there are disadvantages to doing this I don't look forward to dealing with. Most of us will probably be doing that :P. -- Best regards, Michał Górny