[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"

2017-05-11 Thread Martin Vaeth
Luis Ressel wrote: > Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> For instance, you cannot even compile the kernel without special >> patches (which disable pie) if you use a gcc which default-enables >> pie. > > Now I'm curious. Wouldn't that also affect the hardened gcc? I would

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"

2017-05-11 Thread Martin Vaeth
Hanno Böck wrote: > > I could add my voice that I ran pie by default for a while I can confirm that the situation apparently has changed drastically since my last attempt. My previous assertion is no longer valid: Currently, I recompile world on x86 system with default pie, so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"

2017-05-10 Thread Luis Ressel
On Wed, 10 May 2017 07:28:15 + (UTC) Martin Vaeth wrote: > For instance, you cannot even compile the kernel without special > patches (which disable pie) if you use a gcc which default-enables > pie. Now I'm curious. Wouldn't that also affect the hardened gcc? I've never

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"

2017-05-10 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, On Wed, 10 May 2017 07:28:15 + (UTC) Martin Vaeth wrote: > I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop with default > pie for quite a while, but soon was forced to give up: > > There are simply too many package which fail to compile; > this cannot even be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"

2017-05-10 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 05/10/2017 03:35 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > I'm wondering a bit if we're not trying to make ~arch stable again. Then > again > nobody of us knows all use cases of Gentoo everywhere, so listening to the > list makes sense. Well, it'd affect stable users at _some_ point, and as you say;

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"

2017-05-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2017, 15:31:13 CEST schrieb James Le Cuirot: > On Wed, 10 May 2017 08:20:32 -0500 > > Matthias Maier wrote: > > On Wed, May 10, 2017, at 02:28 CDT, Martin Vaeth > > > > wrote: > > > I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"

2017-05-10 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Wed, 10 May 2017 08:20:32 -0500 Matthias Maier wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2017, at 02:28 CDT, Martin Vaeth > wrote: > > > I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop with default > > pie for quite a while, but soon was forced to give up: > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"

2017-05-10 Thread Matthias Maier
On Wed, May 10, 2017, at 02:28 CDT, Martin Vaeth wrote: > I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop with default pie > for quite a while, but soon was forced to give up: > [...] I have pie enabled on a desktop for years. Almost all major linux distribution have

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] News item: GCC 6 defaults to USE="pie ssp"

2017-05-10 Thread Martin Vaeth
Hanno Böck wrote: > I really think it's about time that pie becomes the default in Gentoo. Although I agree from a security perspective, I must warn that this is not realistic, currently: I am using gcc-6 since ages and tried to run a desktop with default pie for quite a