Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 01-05-2011 19:43:48 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: My personal feeling is that we should keep the changelogs as-is, and include removals, until we're on git. Then we should re-evaluate. git doesn't magically solve all the problems! -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-02 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2011-05-02 02:16:49 Markos Chandras napisał(a): On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 04:31:08PM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 11:23:40PM +, Duncan wrote: What about having a dedicated server-based changlog-signing key? That's still a lot of signing with a single key, but as

[gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-01 Thread Duncan
Fabian Groffen posted on Sun, 01 May 2011 12:00:17 +0200 as excerpted: Attachment not shown: MIME type chemical/x-genbank; filename ChangeLog.gen Had to laugh at that one. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-01 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 01-05-2011 14:55:24 +, Duncan wrote: Fabian Groffen posted on Sun, 01 May 2011 12:00:17 +0200 as excerpted: Attachment not shown: MIME type chemical/x-genbank; filename ChangeLog.gen Had to laugh at that one. =:^) Apologies, the .gen extension apparently made the MIME match to

[gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-01 Thread Duncan
Markos Chandras posted on Sun, 01 May 2011 22:08:31 +0100 as excerpted: Having the servers do that, will also allow us to provide cut down Changelogs ( lets say keep that last 10 entries ) so we can provide a more minimal portage tree, size wise. What about cutting it to the largest whole

[gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-01 Thread Duncan
Markos Chandras posted on Sun, 01 May 2011 23:49:06 +0100 as excerpted: On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 03:33:25PM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 10:08:31PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: Since most ( if not all ) of us use the same message on the Changelog and on the commit log,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-01 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 11:23:40PM +, Duncan wrote: What about having a dedicated server-based changlog-signing key? That's still a lot of signing with a single key, but as you observed, the hazards of a loss of integrity there aren't as high as with most of the tree content. It'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: Get at that key, and you've got the tree, versus the current form, crack all signing keys and you've got the tree. Well, more like get any one of the keys and you get the tree, since portage only validates that a trusted

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-01 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 07:43:48PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: Get at that key, and you've got the tree, versus the current form, crack all signing keys and you've got the tree. My personal feeling is that we should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-01 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 04:31:08PM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 11:23:40PM +, Duncan wrote: What about having a dedicated server-based changlog-signing key? That's still a lot of signing with a single key, but as you observed, the hazards of a loss of integrity

[gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-05-01 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 01 May 2011 19:43:48 -0400 as excerpted: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: Get at that key, and you've got the tree, versus the current form, crack all signing keys and you've got the tree. Well, more like get any one of the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-04-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno sab, 30/04/2011 alle 11.07 +0200, Ulrich Mueller ha scritto: I won't clutter ChangeLogs with useless entries for whitespace changes or spelling fixes in comments, for example. They already account for a considerable (too large?) percentage of the portage tree [1], and we shouldn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-04-30 Thread Panagiotis Christopoulos
On 14:28 Sat 30 Apr , Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: If you read the last paragraph in my suggestion was to cycle the logs... Maybe this would be better together with a mechanism (automatic?) to keep the complete ChangeLogs (as they are now) somewhere (but not in the main tree). Sometimes, full

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-04-30 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 4/30/11 3:05 PM, Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote: On 14:28 Sat 30 Apr , Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: If you read the last paragraph in my suggestion was to cycle the logs... Maybe this would be better together with a mechanism (automatic?) to keep the complete ChangeLogs (as they are now)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs

2011-04-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm fine with shipping a trimmed down versions to users, but I think the full version must be easy to access. If the changelogs were accessible via a predicable URL then a simple command-line tool or portage option