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On 10/12/11 02:44, Ryan Hill wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:52:42 +0100 Markos Chandras
hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
Seems like none of you ever bothered to read the bug about
pngcrush and what was discussed there. It is getting a little
bit
On 10/12/2011 04:44 AM, Ryan Hill wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:52:42 +0100
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
Seems like none of you ever bothered to read the bug about pngcrush
and what was discussed there. It is getting a little bit of a habit to
escalate minor problems to flames
В Втр, 11/10/2011 в 19:10 +0300, Samuli Suominen пишет:
Samuli pretends here to act as a part of QA team (although he is not).
Actually even whiteboard of stabilization bug tells #at _earliest_ 17
Oct and thus there is really no sign for rush. This is the case where
QA should voice and
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On 10/11/11 04:00, Ryan Hill wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 18:33:15 +0300 Samuli Suominen
ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
It's not like fastened lastriting hasn't happened before. I
question your motives in picking this particular one. It's not
like
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On 10/11/11 05:36, Alec Warner wrote:
3) Maintainers (and upstreams) are not always responsive. The bug
was opened in February and wasn't really worked on until recently.
It is a bit of surprise all this talking for a bug that went
unattended
В Втр, 11/10/2011 в 08:09 +0100, Markos Chandras пишет:
Isn't this the same situation with gcc stabilizations?
No. As was pointed many times, there was (and still is) no clear
stabilization path announced. But there is some work behind scene and
pressing dates with absolutely no need. If you
Markos Chandras posted on Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:09:21 +0100 as excerpted:
On 10/11/11 04:00, Ryan Hill wrote:
Then stop trying to remove packages that have an active maintainer.
I could have sworn that was written down somewhere.
Isn't this the same situation with gcc stabilizations? Once
Markos Chandras schrieb:
3) Maintainers (and upstreams) are not always responsive. The bug
was opened in February and wasn't really worked on until recently.
It is a bit of surprise all this talking for a bug that went
unattended for 9 months isn't it? O:) It is like people want open bugs
and
2011/10/11 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org:
There was no indication 9 months ago that this bug is so bad that the
package would be removed if not fixed. Masking the package is ok if it
is totally broken or violates policy. Removal when the maintainer is
explicitly against it
On 10/11/2011 08:38 AM, Peter Volkov wrote:
В Вск, 09/10/2011 в 22:28 +, Duncan пишет:
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:37:59 +0200 as
excerpted:
Duncan schrieb:
Libpng isn't held up that way, while the package still gets its 30 day
masking last-rites. No
On 10/11/2011 07:10 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 10/11/2011 08:38 AM, Peter Volkov wrote:
В Вск, 09/10/2011 в 22:28 +, Duncan пишет:
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:37:59 +0200 as
excerpted:
Duncan schrieb:
Libpng isn't held up that way, while the package
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:10:01 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
so no, you don't get to use this as anykind of weapon against me or
anyone else involved.
I thought the idea was to fix the problem in whatever way best serves
the needs of Gentoo's users, not to engage in warfare.
On 10/11/2011 07:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:10:01 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
so no, you don't get to use this as anykind of weapon against me or
anyone else involved.
I thought the idea was to fix the problem in whatever way best serves
the
On 10/11/2011 08:38 AM, Peter Volkov wrote:
В Вск, 09/10/2011 в 22:28 +, Duncan пишет:
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:37:59 +0200 as
excerpted:
Duncan schrieb:
Libpng isn't held up that way, while the package still gets its 30 day
masking last-rites. No
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On 10/11/11 14:57, Rich Freeman wrote:
Finally, when you are taking action in some role (QA, whatever),
make a note of it so that people know in what capacity you are
acting and what project head to escalate to. If you can't say that
I'm doing
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On 10/11/11 14:57, Rich Freeman wrote:
2011/10/11 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org:
The previous e-mail was not a direct response to you but I picked it
at random so I can reply to @all since I sent the entire thread to
/dev/null
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
Seems like none of you ever bothered to read the bug about pngcrush
and what was discussed there.
I read the entire discussion before making a single post - it would be
irresponsible not to. Now, I can't say that I
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On 10/11/11 18:34, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Markos Chandras
hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
I understand your points but given the fact that we have no active QA
team to pick up the mess whenever needed (Diego can't do
On Dienstag 11 Oktober 2011 20:23:13 Markos Chandras wrote:
On 10/11/11 18:34, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Markos Chandras
hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
I understand your points but given the fact that we have no active QA
team to pick up the mess whenever needed
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On 10/11/11 21:01, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
On Dienstag 11 Oktober 2011 20:23:13 Markos Chandras wrote:
On 10/11/11 18:34, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Markos Chandras
hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
I understand your
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
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On 10/11/11 21:01, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
On Dienstag 11 Oktober 2011 20:23:13 Markos Chandras wrote:
On 10/11/11 18:34, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:52:42 +0100
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
Seems like none of you ever bothered to read the bug about pngcrush
and what was discussed there. It is getting a little bit of a habit to
escalate minor problems to flames in Gentoo. So feel free to
write/say/do
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:09:21 +0100
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
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On 10/11/11 04:00, Ryan Hill wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 18:33:15 +0300 Samuli Suominen
ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
It's not like fastened lastriting hasn't
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:41:21 -0600
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
Isn't this the same situation with gcc stabilizations? Once the
timeframe for fixing broken packages with e.g gcc-4.5 is passed, the
remaining broken packages will be gone.
Absolutely not. They aren't even masked.
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:41:15 +0100
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
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On 10/08/11 22:45, Matt Turner wrote:
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Markos Chandras
hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 10/08/2011 02:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 18:33:15 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
It's not like fastened lastriting hasn't happened before. I question
your motives in picking this particular one. It's not like I expected
cookies for the time I've put into this porting effort, but not this
attack
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 18:33:15 +0300
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
It's not like fastened lastriting hasn't happened before. I question
your motives in picking this particular one. It's not like I expected
В Вск, 09/10/2011 в 22:28 +, Duncan пишет:
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:37:59 +0200 as
excerpted:
Duncan schrieb:
Libpng isn't held up that way, while the package still gets its 30 day
masking last-rites. No policy broken; no maintainer toes stepped on
Peter Volkov posted on Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:38:43 +0400 as excerpted:
You are correct, but AFAIK, that's one function of tree-cleaners
(whether or not the remover is actually on the tree-cleaner team), when
packages are broken due to going stale against current, and the bugs
reporting the
Tomáš Chvátal posted on Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:29:52 +0200 as excerpted:
Guys,
the policy makes perfect sense, there are people that sync just monthly,
so they might want to get some headsup why their packages are going
away, and not just remove them.
Thats why the recommended value is 60
Duncan schrieb:
Libpng isn't held up that way, while the package still gets its 30 day
masking last-rites. No policy broken; no maintainer toes stepped on as a
result of the broken policy. No more nasty threads about (this) broken
policy and unhappy maintainers as a result! =:^)
Actually
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:37:59 +0200 as
excerpted:
Duncan schrieb:
Libpng isn't held up that way, while the package still gets its 30 day
masking last-rites. No policy broken; no maintainer toes stepped on as
a result of the broken policy. No more nasty
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