Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-29 Thread Roy Marples
On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 23:20 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:16:22 +0100 > Federico Ferri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sorry if this has already suggested. > > It has. It solves nothing. > If it solves nothing you should at least post a link to the post you made explaini

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:16:22 +0100 Federico Ferri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sorry if this has already suggested. It has. It solves nothing. -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-29 Thread Federico Ferri
Ciaran McCreesh ha scritto: > On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:27 + > Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Using your analogy you should then recognise that there is a strong >> dislike for pink and should seek a new colour that allows the building >> of said extensions. >> > > And what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 18:11 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:27 + > Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 17:43 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > Or to put it another way, you're objecting to painting the house > > > pink rather than green

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 18:11 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:27 + > Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 17:43 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > Or to put it another way, you're objecting to painting the house > > > pink rather than green b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:03:27 + Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 17:43 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Or to put it another way, you're objecting to painting the house > > pink rather than green because you don't like pink (because your > > last house was green to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 17:43 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Or to put it another way, you're objecting to painting the house pink > rather than green because you don't like pink (because your last house > was green too), ignoring that it's been demonstrated that when painted > green, it's impossibl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:27:05 + Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I can smell a blatant hack that is just wrong to the bone like a > lot of other people here. Clearly not... As you say, you don't care to understand any of this. You're just jumping in because you think you know what a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 16:50 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:45:06 + > Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Alright, so where would you stick EAPI such that all the > > > requirements that've previously been described are met? > > > > I neither know, nor care. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:45:06 + Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alright, so where would you stick EAPI such that all the > > requirements that've previously been described are met? > > I neither know, nor care. > > I just feel very strongly that the current proposal is wrong, and no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 16:32 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:04:52 + > Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery > > that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. > > Alright, s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:04:52 + Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery > that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. Alright, so where would you stick EAPI such that all the requirements that've pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Jan Kundrát a écrit : > Roy Marples wrote: >> I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery >> that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. > > Do you count "version" as metadata? I'll bite :) Version numbers aren't metadata because they uniquely

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 16:39 +0100, Jan Kundrát wrote: > Roy Marples wrote: > > I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery > > that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. > > Do you count "version" as metadata? No. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Jan Kundrát
Roy Marples wrote: > I understand that metadata in a file name is pure and simple hackery > that has no place here and the GLEP is a flimsy attempt to justify it. Do you count "version" as metadata? Cheers, -jkt -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP di

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Doug Klima
Roy Marples wrote: > On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 04:16 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> On 12/25/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok. So do you use an EAPI 0 environment to do the sourcing, or an EAPI 1 environment, or what? >>> If it's that such a big deal,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 04:16 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On 12/25/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok. So do you use an EAPI 0 environment to do the sourcing, or an EAPI > > > 1 environment, or what? > > > > If it's that such a big deal, then simply ensure that > > Thankyou for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On 12/25/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok. So do you use an EAPI 0 environment to do the sourcing, or an EAPI > > 1 environment, or what? > > If it's that such a big deal, then simply ensure that Thankyou for reading and understanding the GLEP before jumping in and commenting. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-25 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:43 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Dec 25, 2007 2:38 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:26 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Dec 25, 2007 2:38 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:26 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always do > > > EAPI=`. /path/to/ebuild.ebuild; echo "${EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:26 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always do > > EAPI=`. /path/to/ebuild.ebuild; echo "${EAPI}"` > > Doesn't work with current ebuilds, nor future ebuilds. No point

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always do > EAPI=`. /path/to/ebuild.ebuild; echo "${EAPI}"` Doesn't work with current ebuilds, nor future ebuilds. No points! -- Ciaran McCreesh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Roy Marples
Just picked this particular email to reply with my thoughts on this thread. On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 10:52 +, Steve Long wrote: > But they come under the scope of this discussion, since this is about the > long-term future of *every* EAPI. So let's discuss them Impossible. History has proven aga

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:03:12 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Set the EAPI inside the ebuild in a way that makes it easy to >> fetch it This is ok as atm only EAPI=1 is in the tree, so there is no >> backward compatibility issue. > > It's both a backward