Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 27 January 2006 16:32, MIkey wrote: Paul de Vrieze wrote: Would you mind sharing the useflags you mean, and which packages you want to build? It might be bugs in the packages involved. My standard USE flags for building a lamp server. No X, no cruft. USE=-X -alsa -apm -arts

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-27 Thread MIkey
Paul de Vrieze wrote: Would you mind sharing the useflags you mean, and which packages you want to build? It might be bugs in the packages involved. My standard USE flags for building a lamp server. No X, no cruft. USE=-X -alsa -apm -arts -avi -cups -doc -eds -emboss -gnome -gpm -gstreamer

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread MIkey
Mike Frysinger wrote: Why should system packages (determined by your profile) be present in the official stage1/3 tarballs? do you even realize what you're asking ? -mike Duh, let me clarify that: Why should system packages (determined by your profile) be present in the world file on

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread MIkey
Wernfried Haas wrote: You already complained about that on the forums [1] in a rather similar thread and yet you still haven't filed a bug report about Why I explained a couple of posts further down. I could not duplicate the problem either, I think it went away in 3.4.4-r1. I don't like

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread MIkey
Dale wrote: I thought that if you chose to do a stage 1 install you were on your own. That was my understanding. If that is true, he is getting support for something that is not supported, right? I'm not asking for support, I'm giving it. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread Pete Ezzo
On 1/26/06, MIkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dale wrote: I'm not asking for support, I'm giving it. are you still freaking writing? you have proven yourself ignorant in at least a dozen emails so far. you don't understand portage. you don't understand system. you don't understand how to read.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MIkey wrote: As for the stage 1 problems you described, this is exactly what i already told you in the same thread. Supporting stage 1 costs extra resources, this thread is a perfect example of it. And this is the primary point I am arguing. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 10:42:04AM -0600, MIkey wrote: Why I explained a couple of posts further down. I could not duplicate the problem either, I think it went away in 3.4.4-r1. I don't like posting bug reports that I can't duplicate and I prefer to be able to either post a patch or suggest

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread MIkey
Jan Kundrát wrote: MIkey wrote: A bug, again, that the stage1 installation method was immune to, How come? (I'm not familiar with toolchain.eclass at all.) Because the first pass of the bootstrap, that prepares a working gcc/glibc, uses the bootstrap USE flag and disables all but a few

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 26 January 2006 11:06, MIkey wrote: Why should system packages (determined by your profile) be present in the world file on official stage1/3 tarballs? whether they are in the world file itself doesnt really matter the world target includes all the packages listed in the world file

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread Jan Kundrát
MIkey wrote: A bug, again, that the stage1 installation method was immune to, How come? (I'm not familiar with toolchain.eclass at all.) Because the first pass of the bootstrap, that prepares a working gcc/glibc, uses the bootstrap USE flag and disables all but a few other basic USE flags.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread MIkey
Stephen P. Becker wrote: Which is precisely your problem. You are blindly eating your food without contemplating the contents. Perhaps I am just contemplating a little deeper than you are. pre-existing install != installing from a fresh stage. First, running bootstrap.sh with the new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: bootstrapping since gcc 3.4 is stable

2006-01-26 Thread Jan Kundrát
MIkey wrote: To further educate you, there was a bug shortly after the release of 3.4.4 into stable that did, in fact, automatically switch you over to the new gcc. It was in the toolchain eclass. Great, there was a bug. Yeah, there was. Please notice the word was. It means that it has been