Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-10-10 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 00:30 +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: On Tuesday 27 of September 2005 10:31 Jan Kundrát wrote: What should be changed, Handbook or profiles? Any progress on this subject? No. It doesn't look like any decision was made. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-10-07 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Tuesday 27 of September 2005 10:31 Jan Kundrát wrote: What should be changed, Handbook or profiles? Any progress on this subject? Cheers, -jkt -- cd /local/pub more beer /dev/mouth pgpiunsPox2Er.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-30 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 13:05 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 01:47:49PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 27 September 2005 01:29 pm, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 11:57 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: I'd rather see reasons listed as to why syslog-ng

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-30 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2005-09-30 at 17:09 +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: How about we just use sysklogd ? It does not depend on glib or any other package that would not be pulled in by default in system profile. It have a sane config. It logs to /var/log/message, etc. It supports network logging. Blah,

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-28 Thread Luca Barbato
Chris Gianelloni wrote: Agreed. It should be syslog-ng. If nobody objects, I'll change it in base/virtuals. I'd keep metalog as default OR fix the syslog-ng default configuration. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-28 Thread Jakub Moc
28.9.2005, 2:50:20, Alec Warner wrote: I think syslog-ng is a better logger, except the default configuration is pretty icky. I would shoot for something better, even if it's in /usr/share. I heard hardened's config is quite nice :) At least provide an example of a config that sorts

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-28 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 11:57:26AM -0500, Brian Harring wrote: Agreed. It should be syslog-ng. If nobody objects, I'll change it in base/virtuals. Objecting, obviously ;) [...] I'd rather see reasons listed as to why syslog-ng is a superior default for users who (most likely) don't

[gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Jan Kundrát
Hi, our documentation [1] lists syslog-ng as the default system logger while current profiles uses metalog (except embedded, default-macos/ppc, default-darwin and sparc32). What should be changed, Handbook or profiles? [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/hb-install-tools.xml TIA, -jkt --

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:31:04AM +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: our documentation [1] lists syslog-ng as the default system logger while current profiles uses metalog (except embedded, default-macos/ppc, default-darwin and sparc32). What should be changed, Handbook or profiles? I think we should

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 10:39, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:31:04AM +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: our documentation [1] lists syslog-ng as the default system logger while current profiles uses metalog (except embedded, default-macos/ppc, default-darwin and

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 10:39 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:31:04AM +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: our documentation [1] lists syslog-ng as the default system logger while current profiles uses metalog (except embedded, default-macos/ppc, default-darwin and

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 08:27:34AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 10:39 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:31:04AM +0200, Jan Kundr??t wrote: our documentation [1] lists syslog-ng as the default system logger while current profiles uses

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 11:57 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: Basically... why? I'm neither advocating being different to be different, nor following others so howtos about their stuff fit to ours. I'm after the underlying reasons why general users should be using syslog-ng over metalog in

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 01:29 pm, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 11:57 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: Basically... why? I'm neither advocating being different to be different, nor following others so howtos about their stuff fit to ours. I'm after the underlying

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:47:49 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | because someone changed it doesnt mean it should have been changed Ok, for those who don't remember... In the good old days, syslog-ng was the default. Then, for one of the releases, the x86 team accidentally included

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 01:47:49PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 27 September 2005 01:29 pm, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 11:57 -0500, Brian Harring wrote: I'd rather see reasons listed as to why syslog-ng is a superior default for users who (most likely) don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Ok, for those who don't remember... | | In the good old days, syslog-ng was the default. Then, for one of the | releases, the x86 team accidentally included metalog instead of | syslog-ng on the distfiles CD, so the default

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: | Re: it being a temporary change that should be undone, it's been | around long enough I won't call it 'temporary' at this point. Oh, so if we screwed up a year ago, we shouldn't fix it. If you won't call that temporary, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] default logger

2005-09-27 Thread Alec Warner
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 27 September 2005 02:59 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Ok, for those who don't remember... | | In the good old days, syslog-ng was the default. Then, for one of the | releases, the x86 team accidentally included metalog instead of |