Re: [gentoo-dev] making revdep-rebuild (partially) obsolete

2011-01-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org schrieb: although portage has long been generating the NEEDED files in vdb. even stable portage generates these files. Ah, okay, I wasn't aware of that. What's the difference between NEEEDED and NEEDED.2 ? Multiarch ? cu --

Re: [gentoo-dev] making revdep-rebuild (partially) obsolete

2011-01-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Micha?? Górny mgo...@gentoo.org schrieb: What do you think about this idea ? You mean what do we think about portage-2.2 and preserved-libs? Well, I'm still using portage-2.1, so I wans't aware of whats going on there. For now it seems the preservation is still done explicitly

Re: [gentoo-dev] making revdep-rebuild (partially) obsolete

2011-01-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, January 01, 2011 23:09:11 Enrico Weigelt wrote: BTW: several blog/maillist postings talked about the problem that even on recompile, older library versions could be linked in even on recompile. you'll need to provide an actual example. i have yet to see one. -mike signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] making revdep-rebuild (partially) obsolete

2011-01-01 Thread Zac Medico
On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Well, I'm still using portage-2.1, so I wans't aware of whats going on there. For now it seems the preservation is still done explicitly (preserve_old_lib calls in certain ebuilds ?). My proposal is to record the necessary information (eg. which so

Re: [gentoo-dev] making revdep-rebuild (partially) obsolete

2011-01-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, January 02, 2011 00:17:03 Zac Medico wrote: On 01/01/2011 08:09 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Well, I'm still using portage-2.1, so I wans't aware of whats going on there. For now it seems the preservation is still done explicitly (preserve_old_lib calls in certain ebuilds ?). My

[gentoo-dev] making revdep-rebuild (partially) obsolete

2010-12-31 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, just a little braindump, how revdep-rebuild could be made (partially) obsolete in future: Today it might happen that on an library update an old .so file gets unmerged while still used by somebody - that's what revdep- rebuild scans for. While it should catch those cases, we still

Re: [gentoo-dev] making revdep-rebuild (partially) obsolete

2010-12-31 Thread Mike Gilbert
On 12/31/2010 03:42 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: What do you think about this idea ? I think you should check out the preserve-libs feature in portage-2.2.

Re: [gentoo-dev] making revdep-rebuild (partially) obsolete

2010-12-31 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 21:42:32 +0100 Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: The main problem IMHO is that portage doesn't record which libraries some package links in, so it doesn't know which ones have to be protected from unmerge (unless explicitly stated somewhere). So I'd propose to add

Re: [gentoo-dev] making revdep-rebuild (partially) obsolete

2010-12-31 Thread dev-random
... Subsequent merges will update this that, ... Subsequent merges may happen after a long while. Old, possibly vulunerable library will still be used, and most likely unseen by admin.