Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-27 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On 03/24/2011 04:59 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: this is especially important for the people doing arch keywording since they make a ton of commits. i'm looking at you armin76. One thing I don't get amidst this whole conversation is why I should sign a Manifest file when committing KEYWORDS or

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-27 Thread Philipp Riegger
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:04:56 -0500 Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote: this is especially important for the people doing arch keywording since they make a ton of commits. i'm looking at you armin76. One thing I don't get amidst this whole conversation is why I should sign a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 24/03/2011 в 17:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger пишет: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? Why? Without policy on how we do that and more importantly how we check that signing makes no sense... -- Peter.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
On Friday 25 March 2011 11:11:12 Peter Volkov wrote: В Чтв, 24/03/2011 в 17:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger пишет: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? Why? Without policy on how we do that and more importantly how we check that signing makes no

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 3/24/11 10:59 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? generating/posting/enabling a gpg key is ridiculously easy and there's really no excuse for a dev to not have done this already. Firstly, I'm excited we're moving

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Dane Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/2011 07:55 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 3/24/11 10:59 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? generating/posting/enabling a gpg key is ridiculously easy and there's

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 07:59:49 -0400 Dane Smith c1p...@gentoo.org wrote: Having said that, for those that just use keys for e-mails (most of us), it would make more sense to use full blow SSL certs in the long run. (Mathematically, same thing. But a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Having said that, for those that just use keys for e-mails (most of us), it would make more sense to use full blow SSL certs in the long run. (Mathematically, same thing. But a cert needs to be signed by a CA, and we should ideally maintain a Gentoo CA.) I need to get up to speed with

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 3/25/11 3:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: How about Gentoo Foundation funding devs a full blown X509 client certs? Let's get signing and verifying working first, and then consider anything that requires funding. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Dane Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/25/2011 11:04 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 3/25/11 3:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: How about Gentoo Foundation funding devs a full blown X509 client certs? Let's get signing and verifying working first, and then consider anything that

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Peter Volkov wrote: В Чтв, 24/03/2011 в 17:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger пишет: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? Why? Without policy on how we do that and more importantly how we check that signing makes no

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
i dont expect the rejection to go into effect $now, so people not signing have plenty of time to start doing so Is the additional effort of implementing this for CVS with the current two-stage commit even worth it? I.e. would it not make more sense to wait _with the automated rejection_ until

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-25 Thread Eray Aslan
On 2011-03-25 1:59 PM, Dane Smith wrote: Having said that, for those that just use keys for e-mails (most of us), it would make more sense to use full blow SSL certs in the long run. Please no. PKI is a naive design and for all intents and purposes will remain a pipe-dream. All security

[gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? generating/posting/enabling a gpg key is ridiculously easy and there's really no excuse for a dev to not have done this already. when i look at the tree, the signed stats are stupid low: $ find *-* -maxdepth 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Markos Chandras
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 05:59:45PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? generating/posting/enabling a gpg key is ridiculously easy and there's really no excuse for a dev to not have done this already. when i look at

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Olivier Crête
On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 17:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? generating/posting/enabling a gpg key is ridiculously easy and there's really no excuse for a dev to not have done this already. I didn't know we still

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/24/2011 11:59 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? generating/posting/enabling a gpg key is ridiculously easy and there's really no excuse for a dev to not have done this already. Also submitting the quizzes

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ?  generating/posting/enabling a gpg key is ridiculously easy and there's really no excuse for a dev to not have done this already. Is

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 24/03/2011 22:59, Mike Frysinger a écrit : is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? generating/posting/enabling a gpg key is ridiculously easy and there's really no excuse for a dev to not have done this already. I, for one, have never signed my

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: Is there some plan to make verification of signed Manifests easy/automatic for end users? the end goal is for it to be transparent when it works. emerge itself would check things as part of its digest verification. as to the current state

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:59:45 -0400 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? Funny that. I only started doing that Yesterday. It had been on my TODO for a couple of years. :) jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Rémi Cardona wrote: PS, wasn't manifest-signing supposed to become moot once we moved to git? not in the least. git only provides SHA1 which is not cryptographically strong, and we will still be mirroring only the latest checkout via rsync. the hashs in git

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Jeroen Roovers dixit (2011-03-25, 00:50): On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:59:45 -0400 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? Funny that. I only started doing that Yesterday. It had been on my TODO for a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Antoni Grzymala wrote: Jeroen Roovers dixit (2011-03-25, 00:50): On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:59:45 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? Funny that. I only started doing that Yesterday. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 06:08:53PM -0400, Olivier Crête wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 17:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ? generating/posting/enabling a gpg key is ridiculously easy and there's really no excuse

Re: [gentoo-dev] rejecting unsigned commits

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Brian Harring wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 06:08:53PM -0400, Olivier Crête wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 17:59 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: is there any reason we should allow people to commit unsigned Manifest's anymore ?  generating/posting/enabling a gpg