On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
On Dienstag, 15. Mai 2007, Caleb Tennis wrote:
I just read the bug, but I don't see any compelling reason against using
the preserve_old stuff.
The big problem with it is that we do not store information about retained
libraries and let portage
On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Caleb Tennis wrote:
I think the preserve_old_libs thing might just be the hack we need here.
It's been brought to my attention that a bad side effect from using the
preserve_old_libs method is that if an intermediary library, like qt3, gets
rebuilt then you end up
Carsten Lohrke wrote:
If we want to take this to measure, it' a bigger problem for KDE users
(unless
built with --as-needed). The list of packages is unfortunately
quite impressive. What was your plan wrt. stabilisation of Gnome? I can
look at the remaining issues this evening, so maybe
Christian, Raúl - you guys rock!
Carsten
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I'd like to open a bug soon requesting the stabiliztion of
dev-libs/expat-2.0.0*.
It's currently assigned to tcltk, but the bug traffic seems to indicate they
don't
know why they have it. If nobody steps up, objects, and is willing to take over
maintenance I will do so.
* - This version has a
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 07:30 -0400, Caleb Tennis wrote:
I'd like to open a bug soon requesting the stabiliztion of
dev-libs/expat-2.0.0*.
It's currently assigned to tcltk, but the bug traffic seems to indicate they
don't
know why they have it. If nobody steps up, objects, and is willing to
On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:30:17 -0400 (EDT)
Caleb Tennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* - This version has a new soname, so it will require a
revdep-rebuild, which is probably why it hasn't been stabilized as of
now.
Isn't this why we have slots?
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Ciaran McCreesh
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Isn't this why we have slots?
Yeah, but I think it's a hack in this case. All of the current versions in
portage
are 1.95, which I believe were pre-releases to 2.0. As far as I can tell,
nothing
is vastly different in 2.0 other than bug fixes and a final soname change. As
well,
we'd have
Yeah, exactly. I was too late to have things sorted out with people
maintaining (or the lack of it) to have this stabilized together with
GNOME-2.16, as the biggest desktop environments need to be
revdep-rebuilt to a large extent if not using --as-needed.
I hope you guys are going to do it
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 07:47 -0400, Caleb Tennis wrote:
Yeah, exactly. I was too late to have things sorted out with people
maintaining (or the lack of it) to have this stabilized together with
GNOME-2.16, as the biggest desktop environments need to be
revdep-rebuilt to a large extent if
On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Caleb Tennis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* - This version has a new soname, so it will require a
revdep-rebuild, which is probably why it hasn't been stabilized as of
now.
Isn't this why we have slots?
no
-mike
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On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Caleb Tennis wrote:
* - This version has a new soname, so it will require a revdep-rebuild,
which is probably why it hasn't been stabilized as of now.
so add a call to preserve_old_lib / preserve_old_lib_notify like should have
been in there in the first place ... see
On Tue, 15 May 2007 08:22:47 -0400
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Caleb Tennis wrote:
* - This version has a new soname, so it will require a
revdep-rebuild, which is probably why it hasn't been stabilized as
of now.
so add a call to preserve_old_lib /
On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 15 May 2007, Caleb Tennis wrote:
* - This version has a new soname, so it will require a
revdep-rebuild, which is probably why it hasn't been stabilized as
of now.
so add a call to
On Tue, 15 May 2007 08:52:32 -0400
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
preserve_old_lib is a horrible hack that shouldn't be being used at
all. Don't push it as an alternative for proper slotting.
funny, i could say the same thing for your proper slotting
SLOTing is for API changes,
If you read the bug with loads of duplicates; it's been avoided as well,
because it was considered unsafe for the same reason as slotting.
I just read the bug, but I don't see any compelling reason against using the
preserve_old stuff. It seems like it's a good balance that will mitigate the
Ok, I can't wait with GNOME-2.16.3 that long. I'm already late a month.
I wonder how much packages KDE needs rebuilt with the expat bump
(revdep-rebuild --library expat.so or something like that). Maybe
including it in the GNOME bumps is a good idea if that has it for more
packages than KDE.
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 08:52:32 -0400
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
preserve_old_lib is a horrible hack that shouldn't be being used at
all. Don't push it as an alternative for proper slotting.
funny, i could say the same thing for your proper slotting
On Tue, 15 May 2007 17:02:05 +0300
Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SLOTs are for where a user may want to have multiple versions of the
same package installed, for example where they require headers from
two different versions or where they require shared objects from two
different
On Dienstag, 15. Mai 2007, Caleb Tennis wrote:
I just read the bug, but I don't see any compelling reason against using
the preserve_old stuff.
The big problem with it is that we do not store information about retained
libraries and let portage throw warnings. When people miss such a post
I think the preserve_old_libs thing might just be the hack we need here.
It's been brought to my attention that a bad side effect from using the
preserve_old_libs method is that if an intermediary library, like qt3, gets
rebuilt
then you end up having both expat libraries linked against the kde
On Dienstag, 15. Mai 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
preserve_old_lib is a horrible hack that shouldn't be being used at all.
Don't push it as an alternative for proper slotting.
In it's current state it's indeed a horrible hack. But slotting is in many
cases no solution either. When you have to
Caleb Tennis napsal(a):
I think the preserve_old_libs thing might just be the hack we need here.
It's been brought to my attention that a bad side effect from using the
preserve_old_libs method is that if an intermediary library, like qt3, gets
rebuilt
then you end up having both expat
On Dienstag, 15. Mai 2007, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
Ok, I can't wait with GNOME-2.16.3 that long. I'm already late a month.
I wonder how much packages KDE needs rebuilt with the expat bump
(revdep-rebuild --library expat.so or something like that). Maybe
including it in the GNOME bumps is a good
It's been discussed with the original maintainer over and over again,
and the conclusion was that it's not safe to have two versions of expat
installed on the same system. So, why don't we just stick to that and be
done with it?
Yep, I'm on that page as well. I will push the stabilization
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