Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-19 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 20:43, Sven Wegener wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 07:50:13PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Sven Wegener wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:56:43PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: I'm in favor of this. Would you mind calling it package.autouse, package.use.auto or are

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-15 Thread Sven Wegener
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 07:50:13PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Wegener wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:56:43PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: I'm in favor of this. Would you mind calling it package.autouse, package.use.auto or are you set

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-15 Thread Sven Wegener
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:16:18PM +0200, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:40:48 +0200 Sven Wegener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. It allows us to force some

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-15 Thread Alec Warner
Sven Wegener wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:16:18PM +0200, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:40:48 +0200 Sven Wegener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 19:50 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Wegener wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:56:43PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: I'm in favor of this. Would you mind calling it package.autouse, package.use.auto or are you set on

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 04:43, Jason Wever wrote: One feature that would be more useful (in my honest on Tuesdays opinion) for us arch folks is the ability to mask use flags on a per-package basis. +1 for this, from the Gentoo/FreeBSD team :P We also have similar problems because sometimes

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Jan Kundrát
Mike Frysinger wrote: and is the EXACT reason we have the 'nocxx' USE flag instead of 'cxx' ... if we put 'USE=cxx' into profiles' make.defaults, people who have USE=-* will get a broken gcc Well, if you really consider setting USE=-* to cause so much harm, then if you introduce the cxx USE

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
Sven Wegener wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:08:09PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Sven Wegener wrote: use.force might not be the best name, but it's what we do with it for most of our users. Being able to -flag in /etc/portage/profile/use.force is just because /etc/portage/profile gets added

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 19:46, Alec Warner wrote: It seems like this is an abuse of USE flags, somewhat. I guess programs could have support for elibc_X or elibc_Y or userland_GNU or userland_DARWIN/BSD but why a USE flag for these? Because sometimes we must disable some dependency depending

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Sven Wegener
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 01:46:22PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Sven Wegener wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:08:09PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Sven Wegener wrote: use.force might not be the best name, but it's what we do with it for most of our users. Being able to -flag in

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Wegener wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:56:43PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: I'm in favor of this. Would you mind calling it package.autouse, package.use.auto or are you set on .force? As Mike already wrote those names are too confusing with

[gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
Hi all! We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. It allows us to force some USE flags to be turned on for a profile. It's not possible to disable this flag by make.conf, the environment or package.use. But we would not be

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Harald van Dk
Just a thought, but how about making use.mask lock flags instead of forcing them off? Meaning, if use.mask contains ncurses, and make.defaults contains USE=ncurses, this would have the same effect as what ncurses in use.force would do. IMO, this would keep things a bit simpler. But again, just a

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:47:30PM +0200, Harald van D??k wrote: Just a thought, but how about making use.mask lock flags instead of forcing them off? Meaning, if use.mask contains ncurses, and make.defaults contains USE=ncurses, this would have the same effect as what ncurses in use.force

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Simon Stelling
Sven Wegener wrote: We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. It allows us to force some USE flags to be turned on for a profile. It's not possible to disable this flag by make.conf, the environment or package.use. But we

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 03:56:49PM -0400, Dan Meltzer wrote: Seems like use.force might be a bad name. when I first read the email, and saw use.force, the first thing that came to mind was gentoo forcing something? and even after reading the email, I wouldn't expect to be able to override

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 03:40:34PM -0500, Kito wrote: what about just a use.env? I find that a little bit misleading. Sounds like use this environment or so. Sven -- Sven Wegener Gentoo Linux Developer http://www.gentoo.org/ pgpjQajdyL9gj.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 13 June 2005 23:08, Alec Warner wrote: How is this not just a consequence of USE=-*...that is what this does; turns off ALL use flags. How is use.force ( or the concept thereof ) not breaking the 'easy' interpretation of USE=-* because now things aren't -*, they are -* + use.force

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Sven Wegener
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:08:09PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Sven Wegener wrote: use.force might not be the best name, but it's what we do with it for most of our users. Being able to -flag in /etc/portage/profile/use.force is just because /etc/portage/profile gets added to the cascaded

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Ned Ludd
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 16:40 +0200, Sven Wegener wrote: Hi all! We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. It allows us to force some USE flags to be turned on for a profile. It's not possible to disable this flag by

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 13 June 2005 06:56 pm, Ned Ludd wrote: Would you mind calling it package.autouse, package.use.auto or are you set on .force? the 'auto' and 'use' gets confusing with use.defaults (the so called 'auto-USE flags') -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Kumba
Sami Näätänen wrote: On Monday 13 June 2005 23:54, Sven Wegener wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 03:40:34PM -0500, Kito wrote: what about just a use.env? I find that a little bit misleading. Sounds like use this environment or so. How about use.lock, which would lock the listed use flags

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-13 Thread Jason Wever
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:40:48 +0200 Sven Wegener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just had a short discussion over in #gentoo-portage and the idea of an use.force file for profiles came up. One feature that would be more useful (in my honest on Tuesdays opinion) for us arch folks is the ability to