Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 15:16:49 -0800 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: So Thomáš posted today [1] that the new LibreOffice 4 is going to _need_ an LDAP provider in the future because they are not going to keep it optional as it is now. Right now, the only provider we have in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 02/12/2012 00:43, Michał Górny wrote: How about splitting the ebuild into separate library and server and fixing the deps? It would be cleaner for people, and we'd just release a news message that those who need an LDAP server, need to put it in their @world. How about no? Split packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 07:58:29 -0800 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 02/12/2012 00:43, Michał Górny wrote: How about splitting the ebuild into separate library and server and fixing the deps? It would be cleaner for people, and we'd just release a news message that those

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 02/12/2012 08:20, Michał Górny wrote: For users? Since when a correctly split package is a pain for user? Funny I think you would have guessed... let's say, a Poppler split that every other update would fail in the middle leaving a system completely unable to start a PDF viewer without

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 08:23:30 -0800 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 02/12/2012 08:20, Michał Górny wrote: For users? Since when a correctly split package is a pain for user? Funny I think you would have guessed... let's say, a Poppler split that every other update would

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2012/12/2 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org: And when was poppler split a library/server split? I think it was 2k8 or so, before the kde team took over its maintenance.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 02/12/2012 08:48, Michał Górny wrote: And when was poppler split a library/server split? Okay, listen, I tried to tell you this, before, a number of times: repeating your same line ad nauseam is _not_ going to convince me that you're right. When I'm telling you I don't like your idea, you

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 02-12-2012 a las 07:58 -0800, Diego Elio Pettenò escribió: On 02/12/2012 00:43, Michał Górny wrote: How about splitting the ebuild into separate library and server and fixing the deps? It would be cleaner for people, and we'd just release a news message that those who need an LDAP

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 11:16:16PM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote Maybe the easiest option would be to keep current defaults and simply include a news item when libreoffice starts to pull in openldap on a lot of systems remembering admins that they can safely enable minimal USE flag for openldap if

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 02/12/2012 15:34, Walter Dnes wrote: Howsabout following the same protocol as with CXX/NOCXX? In the past, portage would pick a default if neither was specified. You don't know what you're talking about I'm afraid. Before we had USE defaults (i.e. IUSE=+cxx) we had a nocxx (negative)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-01 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Diego Elio Pettenò schrieb: In the mean time, I would suggest that, since the desktop profiles already have USE=ldap enabled, we should default on the same profiles to net-nds/openldap minimal to make sure that the default desktop users don't get a copy of openldap (server) installed. I