Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/30/2016 04:46 PM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote: > > NP, there are 2 patches floating on the MATE ml that move the dependency on > sys-power/upower-pm-utils > consolekit(suspend/resume is handled by consolekit instead). Wold you be > interested to > add those to gentoo MATE? > > Jocke > I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, 2016-05-27 at 18:21 -0400, NP-Hardass wrote: > On 05/27/2016 06:05 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > On 05/27/2016 02:45 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > > > Not on hand, but as the MATE maintainer, I can tell you that starting > > > with MATE-1.14, two packages are gtk3 only, and starting with 1.16,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

Ühel kenal päeval, R, 27.05.2016 kell 13:14, kirjutas Anthony G. Basile: > On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: > > On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell > m> wrote: > > > I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 > > > > Good to know, thanks for stopping

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 06:05 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 05/27/2016 02:45 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: >> Not on hand, but as the MATE maintainer, I can tell you that starting >> with MATE-1.14, two packages are gtk3 only, and starting with 1.16, four >> more are. >> > > Aha, thanks for offering that info.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 02:45 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > On 05/27/2016 02:57 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> As far as I'm concerned, if any package I maintain offers both gtk2 and >> gtk3 support, it would be irresponsible for me to *not* offer that >> choice. Gentoo is about flexibility and giving power to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 02:57 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > As far as I'm concerned, if any package I maintain offers both gtk2 and > gtk3 support, it would be irresponsible for me to *not* offer that > choice. Gentoo is about flexibility and giving power to the user. Choice > is a central part of that, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 11:40 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 05:21:06PM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten >> upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues >> with their gtk3 port, or

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 10:21 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our userbase > clinging to gtk2 for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:55:41PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 5/27/16 1:44 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:14:17PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > >> On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: > >>> On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 10:14 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: >> On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: >>> I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 >> >> Good to know, thanks for stopping by. >> > > Yeah the "its year"

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 07:21 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our userbase > clinging to gtk2 for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27 May 2016 at 20:26, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, R, 27.05.2016 kell 14:10, kirjutas > waltd...@waltdnes.org: >> While we're at it, why are there 23 occurences of the "X" useflag >> in >> /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc when it exists in >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27/05/16 02:23 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > If gtk2 support is removed though, then per gnome policy gtk3 component > should come with USE=gtk and per QA policy USE=gtk3. > > The QA policy is not finalized and completely contradicts our side of > things, hence discussions are needed, but did not

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

Ühel kenal päeval, R, 27.05.2016 kell 14:10, kirjutas waltd...@waltdnes.org: >   While we're at it, why are there 23 occurences of the "X" useflag > in > /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc when it exists in > /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc ???  I'm talking about stuff like... > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

Ühel kenal päeval, R, 27.05.2016 kell 13:14, kirjutas Anthony G. Basile: > On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: > > On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell > m> wrote: > > > I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 > > > > Good to know, thanks for stopping

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27/05/16 16:40, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 05:21:06PM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten >> upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues >> with their gtk3 port, or

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 05:21:06PM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote > This would ideally not be needed, as the package would instead be > slotted and parallel installable for gtk2 and gtk3, which should be > theoretically possible in all cases, because gtk2 and gtk3 may not live > in the same process,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 5/27/16 1:44 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:14:17PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: >>> On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:14:17PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: > > On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: > >> I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 > > > > Good to know, thanks for stopping by. > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

> (qa hat in place) > > There is a qa policy about this. All packages in the tree should > move away from the non-versioned gtk use flag to versioned use flags, > like the ones the qt team uses [1] [2]. > > This seems to be the best compromise. It allows the maintainers of the > packages to decide

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, 27 May 2016 11:35:01 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Brian Dolbec > wrote: [snip] > > I'll be really sad when gtk2 is totally abolished in Gentoo. :( > > I suppose I'll have to break down and switch to KDE maybe.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: > On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: >> I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 > > Good to know, thanks for stopping by. > Yeah the "its year" meme has been making its rounds of the internet. anyhow, my

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: > I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 Good to know, thanks for stopping by.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 On May 27, 2016 9:21 AM, "Mart Raudsepp" wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: [snip] > I'll be really sad when gtk2 is totally abolished in Gentoo. :( > I suppose I'll have to break down and switch to KDE maybe. > > In my opinion the upstream gtk developers have gone somewhat bonkers > with their

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/27/2016 09:21 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 04:21 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our userbase > clinging to gtk2 for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 05:21:06PM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our userbase > clinging

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27/05/16 10:21 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > [ Snip! ] Agree on all other portions above; its the Applications part below that is most contentious though and is also what I care most about: > * Applications may only use a gtk2 based stack or gtk3 based stack in a > given version/revision. gtk3

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, 27 May 2016 17:21:06 +0300 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle > issues with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our >