Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-22 Thread Thierry Carrez
Omkhar Arasaratnam wrote: I think most of the assumptions that you're making involve giving your user population root access. Don't ?? The assumptions I am making are clearly not involving giving a user population root access. I just point to the lack of tools to maintain semi-frozen trees

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-22 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thierry Carrez wrote: Omkhar Arasaratnam wrote: I think most of the assumptions that you're making involve giving your user population root access. Don't ?? The assumptions I am making are clearly not involving giving a user population

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-22 Thread Jim Northrup
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of). As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but quickly ran into scaling problems and the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Alec Warner
Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of). As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but quickly ran into scaling problems and the lack of tools to help. There is no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Thierry Carrez
Alec Warner wrote: There is no obvious way to freeze a Portage tree (or to design a specific profile) for testing on a golden workstation, to build a set of update packages (ServicePack) and push it to the workstations, or to have centralized accountability of what's installed where. There is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Omkhar Arasaratnam
Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of). As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but quickly ran into scaling problems and the lack of tools to help. There is no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:35:52PM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: I don't say that it cannot be done, and I don't ask what's the best way to do it. I just ask *if* we should try to provide higher-level tools (and/or doc) to help in doing so. It's not obvious (especially for non-developers) how