El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:39 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find
if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 17:43 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:53:18 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Seriously, what people is still having problems with handling eapi4?
If there are doubts about its usage, they should be asked and resolved
instead of
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:07:39 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 17:43 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:53:18 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Seriously, what people is still having problems with handling eapi4?
If there
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 08:14 +0200, Michał Górny escribió:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:07:39 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 17:43 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:53:18 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Seriously,
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:39 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find
if I have time... what prevents
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 16:09 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:39 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do whatever conversions
Pacho Ramos wrote:
Seriously, what people is still having problems with handling eapi4?
Seriously, what people are still having problems with trimming quotes?
Pacho, I wrote a sarcastic manual for you about how to trim quotes in
your replies on the mailing list, but you are still not doing it.
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 16:29 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió:
[...]
And finally, as already pointed out by Rich, you should not talk about
any specific EAPI you like/prefer/want to be used everyhwere, but
instead about the issue you want to solve. So just point out the issue
and ask the
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 16:09 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:39 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 16:09 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
[...]
And finally, as already pointed out by Rich, you should not talk about
any specific EAPI you like/prefer/want to be used everyhwere, but
instead about the issue you want to solve. So just point out the issue
and ask the
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 17:15 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
[...]
I am not talking about hypothetical problems, i am talking about a real
thing: my limited amount of free time i am able and willing to spend for
Gentoo. And i prefer spending it on fixing real bugs over spending
additional
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
That time you think you are saving, will be need to be lost if, for
example, some QA policy appears in the future to move to try to run
tests in parallel when possible, or force verbose output.
So you're suggesting that I
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 16:09 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
[...]
And finally, as already pointed out by Rich, you should not talk about
any specific EAPI you like/prefer/want to be used everyhwere, but
instead about the issue you want to solve. So just point out the
El jue, 18-10-2012 a las 15:35 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió:
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Personally I see no major difficult in moving to eapi4, what exact
difficult are you (I mean people still sticking with eapi0/1) seeing?
It is harder than cp.
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is
technically better, we need to try to get it used when possible (I
mean, when, for example, eclasses are ported) for a QA reasoning.
i think we all agree
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 14:51 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is
technically better, we need to try to get it used when possible (I
mean, when, for
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:09:15 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 14:51 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 15:47 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió:
[...]
Because it will add even more work, I mean:
- I catch a package using and old eapi and, then, still not passing
--disable-silent-rules option. = First problem, I need to notice that
package, there are packages I simply
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find
if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that
changes to ebuilds not maintained by me and not knowing if developers
agree on using latest eapi if possible. A more general solution
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find
if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that
changes to ebuilds not maintained by me and not knowing if developers
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find
if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that
changes to ebuilds not maintained by me and not
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:53:18 +0200
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Seriously, what people is still having problems with handling eapi4?
If there are doubts about its usage, they should be asked and resolved
instead of ignored keeping ebuilds with older eapis. The only eapi
that probably
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
This is not about having problems with handling eapi-X, this is just
about limited time and the choice where to spend that time. If you do
just a version bump, you often dont have to touch the ebuild at all,
just copy,
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:00:12 -0400
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
I think the whole developers-can't-handle-47-EAPIs thing is a red
herring. The fact that there are packages written in Erlang in the
tree doesn't
El jue, 18-10-2012 a las 09:36 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió:
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:00:12 -0400
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
I think the whole developers-can't-handle-47-EAPIs thing is a red
herring. The fact
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I didn't think eapi4 features were still unfamiliar to so many
people... let's say, what about deprecating eapi1, 2 and 0 for newer
ebuilds? Is eapi2 so unfamiliar also to not force it as older eapi for
newer ebuilds (eapi3
El jue, 18-10-2012 a las 13:49 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió:
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I didn't think eapi4 features were still unfamiliar to so many
people... let's say, what about deprecating eapi1, 2 and 0 for newer
ebuilds? Is eapi2 so
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Personally I see no major difficult in moving to eapi4, what exact
difficult are you (I mean people still sticking with eapi0/1) seeing?
It is harder than cp. :)
If I write a new ebuild I would always target the most recent
On 10/18/2012 09:09 PM, Ryan Hill wrote:
Anyways, we're seriously getting off topic here. I don't think anyone
objected to removing the EAPI 0 requirement for system packages (and in
reality no one follows it anyways.
An EAPI 0 requirement for system packages is just silly these days.
Even
El mar, 16-10-2012 a las 23:42 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 08:28:20 +0200
Ralph Sennhauser s...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:10:23 -0600
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'd argue against deprecating EAPI 0 any time soon though. Killing
EAPI 1
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Would be easier to prune old versions if we force them to be less
using at least preventing new ebuilds to use them. For example, what is
the advantage for a new ebuild to still rely on old src_compile phase
instead of
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:10:23 -0600
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'd argue against deprecating EAPI 0 any time soon though. Killing
EAPI 1 would be a better idea.
I'm not for forced EAPI bumps anytime soon, but I expect EAPI 0 to be
gone from tree in 3-5 years once the EAPI=0
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