Re: [gentoo-dev] 2005.1 profile gives devfs as virtual

2005-09-06 Thread Philip Webb
050906 Jason Stubbs wrote: On Tuesday 06 September 2005 01:06, Philip Webb wrote: 050905 Jason Stubbs wrote: it's possible that unmerging slotted packages of the one key may break your system. How's about not warning if there's more than one installed cat/pkg (rather than cat/pkg-ver)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [summary] combining x86 and amd64

2005-09-06 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Fri, 2005-09-02 at 18:32 +0900, Chris White wrote: Ok, say yah, this thread is to long, so I decided, Hey, let's make a summary of the main important points. That way everyone doesn't have to read threads that are longer than the combined code of portage. [snip] Hopefully this makes

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Jakub Moc
5.9.2005, 22:09:28, Stuart Herbert wrote: I kept PHP5 masked for those 14 months, and (as Jakub and others can confirm) most of the feedback has been limited to unmask that puppy (sometimes put in stronger terms ;-) There were some bugs from users who had found issues, but not many. Well,

Re: [gentoo-dev] GNOME 2.12 Release Candidate Testing

2005-09-06 Thread Michael Kohl
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 00:45:00 + (UTC) John N. Laliberte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you would like to help us find bugs in this release, please unmask all packages located in the GNOME 2.12 section of package.mask. Also, these need to be placed in package.keywords. I've posted

[gentoo-dev] [Summary] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Chris White
Yet another thread that's getting horrificly long, here comes your summary folks: Introduction An email was sent by Grant Goodyear containing a GLEP for the official x86 arch team establishment [1]. Discussions Ciaran McCreesh requested more information on exactly what the line: There will

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2005.1 profile gives devfs as virtual

2005-09-06 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 17:33, Philip Webb wrote: Sorry, but that's neither adequate nor polite as a response to the genuine problem which I raised as the original poster. The answer to your question should be clear from the rest of my message -- the present warning is misleading, as

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2005.1 profile gives devfs as virtual

2005-09-06 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 17:33, Philip Webb wrote: Sorry, but that's neither adequate nor polite as a response You've rattled me enough that I only responded to this part. to the genuine problem which I raised as the original poster. It wasn't a response to the original poster. It was

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Summary] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris White wrote: [snip] | * Although x86 arch recruitment is currently underway, I suspect that |we will need notably more devs to be x86 arch devs than we currently |have signed up. (I don't know how many arch devs amd64 have, but I |

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 22:46 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: Stuart Herbert wrote: I've no personal problem with arch teams sometimes needing to do their own thing, provided it's confined to a specific class of package. Outside of the core packages required to boot maintain a platform, when

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Luis F. Araujo
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 22:46 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: Stuart Herbert wrote: I've no personal problem with arch teams sometimes needing to do their own thing, provided it's confined to a specific class of package. Outside of the core packages required to boot

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 10:39:44PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: At the moment, the only way for a package maintainer to mark a package stable is to mark it stable on a real arch. Creating the maintainer arch solves this very problem. Yes, but please don't call it the maintainer arch. This

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Summary] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Ed W
As an outsider reading that summary the message *I* read is that there is some strain over fitting the development model into stable, ~, and package.mask. I think I see people basically saying that they have differing views over what qualifies for each level? Perhaps part of the solution is

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:22:09 +0200 Sven Vermeulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 10:39:44PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: | At the moment, the only way for a package maintainer to mark a | package stable is to mark it stable on a real arch. Creating the | maintainer arch

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 06 September 2005 19:11, Joshua Baergen wrote: Sven Vermeulen wrote: MAINTENANCE=~x86 # Maintainer uses x86, package not deemed stable I would even suggest not indicating maintainer arch at all. If ATs are going to be responsible for keywording we should blackbox the process to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Fixing the TERM mess

2005-09-06 Thread Jan Kundrát
Joe Wells wrote: The best solution to this that I can think of is to extend OpenSSH with the capability to copy terminfo information to ~/.terminfo on the remote system. IMHO automated overwriting files in $HOME on every login is a *very* bad thing. And if you wanted to remove those -via-ssh-#

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 12:25 -0400, Luis F. Araujo wrote: Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 22:46 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: Stuart Herbert wrote: I've no personal problem with arch teams sometimes needing to do their own thing, provided it's confined to a

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 17:22 +0200, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 10:39:44PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: At the moment, the only way for a package maintainer to mark a package stable is to mark it stable on a real arch. Creating the maintainer arch solves this very problem.

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Chris Gianelloni wrote: You'd have a really long list of maintenance architectures for me. Like I said, I don't use a single machine. The idea of *any* architecture being my primary one just doesn't really fit. There's also the simple fact that it doesn't matter *at all* what the maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Luis F. Araujo
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 12:25 -0400, Luis F. Araujo wrote: Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 22:46 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: Stuart Herbert wrote: I've no personal problem with arch teams sometimes needing to do their own

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:35:31 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Chris Gianelloni wrote: | You'd have a really long list of maintenance architectures for me. | Like I said, I don't use a single machine. The idea of *any* | architecture being my primary one just doesn't really fit.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Summary] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Alec Joseph Warner
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:03:37 +0100 Ed W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | As an outsider reading that summary the message *I* read is that | there is some strain over fitting the development model into | stable, ~, and package.mask. I think I see people basically | saying that

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 20:47 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 12:35:31 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Chris Gianelloni wrote: | You'd have a really long list of maintenance architectures for me. | Like I said, I don't use a single machine. The idea of

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:19:43 +0200 Martin Schlemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What about !arch or something (to connect with the one reply to the | summary thread) to really indicate unstable on that arch? Should | cover those things that sorda work on the arch, but you rather want | developers

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread warnera6
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:19:43 +0200 Martin Schlemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What about !arch or something (to connect with the one reply to the | summary thread) to really indicate unstable on that arch? Should | cover those things that sorda work on the arch, but you

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:19:43 +0200 Martin Schlemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What about !arch or something (to connect with the one reply to the | summary thread) to really indicate unstable on that arch? Should | cover those things that sorda work on the arch, but you

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 22:31 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:19:43 +0200 Martin Schlemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What about !arch or something (to connect with the one reply to the | summary thread) to really indicate unstable on that arch? Should | cover those things

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:46:40 -0400 Stephen P. Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | This is true, however it requires users to possibly make a gazillion | entries in their /etc/portage/package.unmask if they want to use a | lot of what are considered truly unstable packages. There are dozens of

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:41:35 -0400 warnera6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Speaking of flexabilty, are there tools out there to perform look-ups | into p.masks to figure out why things are masked? emerge -pv -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail:

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread warnera6
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:41:35 -0400 warnera6 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Speaking of flexabilty, are there tools out there to perform look-ups | into p.masks to figure out why things are masked? emerge -pv emerge -pv would be a cludge for what many are after. If I

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Shanker
On 9/6/05, Martin Schlemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: arch- in theory stable~arch - in theory should work, but needs testing-arch - do not work at all Just out of curiosity, why are there know broken packages in portage? Wouldn't -arch packages best be handled outside of the official portage tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Stephen P. Becker
Dave Shanker wrote: On 9/6/05, *Martin Schlemmer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: arch - in theory stable ~arch - in theory should work, but needs testing -arch - do not work at all Just out of curiosity, why are there know broken packages in portage? What

Re: [gentoo-dev] tentative x86 arch team glep

2005-09-06 Thread Stuart Longland
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 9:44:41 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On 5/9/2005 1:29:57, Ciaran McCreesh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: | On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 1:12:54 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | | 3) All packages need to be assigned an x86

[gentoo-portage-dev] New possible developer

2005-09-06 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi, This is Rafael Fernández López. I'm a spanish student (computer engineering) and I'd like to know if I can do some work for portage... like translating it to spanish or if I see any bugs, fix them. I'm starting to read portage code, and I'd like to know if anyone can mentor me. Thank you