On Wednesday 02 of November 2005 23:34 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Oh? Our GuideXML to HTML conversion is thousands of lines of code...
...including stuff for detecting outdated translations, inclusion of icons for
the homepage etc etc.
Cheers,
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
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1. Store the actual guides as GuideXML at a central place such as
http://errata.gentoo.org/
2. Write a simple 'publishing' tool that extracts a summary and a link.
This is what gets pumped into portage and shown
On 11/3/05, Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
[a reply]
1. Store the actual guides as GuideXML at a central place such as
http://errata.gentoo.org/
2. Write a simple 'publishing' tool that extracts a summary and
List,
There are currently 1066 open bugs assigned to
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Could everyone please take a moment to scan through them?
Thanks,
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On Thursday 03 November 2005 17:42, Tom Martin wrote:
Could everyone please take a moment to scan through them?
More important would be imho, if everyone would take the time and have a look
at the maintainer-needed bugs, instead continuously adding new packages while
the share of unmaintained
Carsten Lohrke schrieb:
More important would be imho, if everyone would take the time and
have a look at the maintainer-needed bugs, instead continuously
adding new packages while the share of unmaintained packages in the
repository grows steadily.
One thing I am interested would be
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 06:06:24PM +0100, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
Carsten Lohrke schrieb:
More important would be imho, if everyone would take the time and
have a look at the maintainer-needed bugs, instead continuously
adding new packages while the share of unmaintained packages in the
On Thursday 03 November 2005 18:06, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
One thing I am interested would be whether or not I am allowed to add
packages like latexmk [1] to the tree although I am not a member of the
herd in charge of the respective category.
As long as you maintain it on your own and
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 08:49:42 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| 6. Ciaran is completely biased against XML (or anything that isn't
| stored as a simple flat file) ;)
It's not bias. I give XML exactly what it deserves. SGML is a giant
fire breathing stomping monster useful for
pclouds wrote:
Hi,
I haven't recently used svk anymore so my svk maintaining would be not
good enough. Moreover, i have little time for Gentoo till i get back
to Vietnam in February. Anyone interesting in maintaining svk is
welcome or i will remove it two weeks later :)
Cheers,
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On 11/3/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can also give you a list of people who throw hissy fits if you dare
suggest that their code may be anything less than perfect... It's a
pretty useful starting point for filtering out the worst of the
dross...
Do you have a list of people
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 14:51 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Did you specifically ask them if it is because we have different news in
different locations? Somehow I think you're obscuring some facts to
make your own argument.
That seems an unpleasant accusation to make :(
The answer is that I
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:40:45 +0100 Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| On 11/3/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I can also give you a list of people who throw hissy fits if you
| dare suggest that their code may be anything less than perfect...
| It's a pretty useful
One of the common complaints with revdep-rebuild is that it wants to
constantly rebuild binary packages (most notably openoffice-bin). To
assist in resolving this issue, I have released gentoolkit-0.2.1_pre9
which adds the capability for an ebuild maintainer to adjust how
revdep-rebuild behaves
Hola all-
Got us a new dev to harass, mentored by ribosome, and helping out in
the scientific herd- quantum chemistry, and molecular dynamics
packages, subjects that have have the potential to cause
cereberal hemorrhaging :)
In his own words-
I have been part of our research group's
Round two;
We've got a new lead russian translator, Alexey Chumakov (achumakov).
Feel free to harass him, make him tell you dirty words in russian, and
make 'em do a bit of work in addition.
Some background info provided from him-
I am 30. I was born in Kiev, Ukraine, and now live in Moscow.
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 08:49:42 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| 6. Ciaran is completely biased against XML (or anything that isn't
| stored as a simple flat file) ;)
It's not bias. I give XML exactly what it
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:29:45 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| Flat files can be great in certain situations. Flat files do indeed
| make the parsing trivial. However SIMPLE CODE ISN'T ALWAYS THE MOST
| IMPORTANT REQUIREMENT. In the case of this GLEP, the most important
|
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:32:47 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| What do you mean they aren't tied to ebuilds? I don't really
| understand what this feature should do then, it seems. Once again,
| what's wrong with
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:45:08 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| Just keep in mind that portage is supposed to be non-interactive and
| most users like it that way. (Although the countdown when cleaning out
| old packages kinda breaks that idea, but I digress.)
You really should give
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 12:26 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:16:03 +0100 Thierry Carrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| For them to know about it, they need to be warned when they do their
| emerge -p world or
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:29:45 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| Flat files can be great in certain situations. Flat files do indeed
| make the parsing trivial. However SIMPLE CODE ISN'T ALWAYS THE MOST
|
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:45:08 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| Just keep in mind that portage is supposed to be non-interactive and
| most users like it that way. (Although the countdown when cleaning out
|
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:02:58 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| So if you didn't want people to actually review and comment on *your*
| GLEP, why did you write:
|
| The attached GLEP is a draft proposal for the emerge --news thing
| that's been under discussion. There are still some
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Stuart Herbert wrote:
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 14:51 -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
Did you specifically ask them if it is because we have different news in
different locations? Somehow I think you're obscuring some facts to
make your own argument.
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:05:45 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:45:08 -0500 Nathan L. Adams
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| wrote:
| | Just keep in mind that portage is supposed to be non-interactive
| | and most users like it that way.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:02:58 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| So if you didn't want people to actually review and comment on *your*
| GLEP, why did you write:
|
| The attached GLEP is a draft proposal for
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:05:45 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:45:08 -0500 Nathan L. Adams
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| wrote:
| | Just keep in mind that portage
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:24:27 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| I'm also commenting on the part that *wrongly* states It is not
| reasonable to expect all users to have an MTA, *web browser*, email
| client, cron daemon or text processing suite available on their
| system. In
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 08:24:27PM -0500, Nathan L. Adams wrote:
I'm also commenting on the part that *wrongly* states It is not
reasonable to expect all users to have an MTA, *web browser*, email
client, cron daemon or text processing suite available on their system.
In particular, this means
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:24:27 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| I'm also commenting on the part that *wrongly* states It is not
| reasonable to expect all users to have an MTA, *web browser*, email
| client,
*ALL* of the official docs are GuideXML; Gentoo *expects* users to have
a web browser by default. Otherwise a vast majority of users would never
get Gentoo installed in the first place. The lightweight requirement
appears to just be your way of subverting the current documentation
standards
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Brian Harring wrote:
Not necessarily the website imo, some central store where it's pushed
out to all of the locations though (which I suspect you're getting
at).
I forgot to clarify one point. I'm saying that http://errata.g.o/ should
be the
So you installed your server without reading *any* documenation? (Don't
lie). And you expect that the average user installs a Gentoo server
without at least referencing the documentation? Pa-leaze.
Funny, I've done three fresh installs on my various mips machines in the
past couple of weeks,
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:36:03 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| So you installed your server without reading *any* documenation?
Actually, yes, I did. I can quite easily do installs without the
documentation, as can most other people who really know how Gentoo
works.
| (Don't lie).
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:41:36 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| If I understand his position correctly, Ciaran doesn't want the
| GuideXML version at all, which is a supremely stupid idea IMHO.
Read GLEP. GLEP good.
Especially the bit about interoperability with existing news
Nathan L. Adams wrote:
*ALL* of the official docs are GuideXML; Gentoo *expects* users to have
a web browser by default. Otherwise a vast majority of users would never
get Gentoo installed in the first place. The lightweight requirement
appears to just be your way of subverting the current
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Stephen P. Becker wrote:
*ALL* of the official docs are GuideXML; Gentoo *expects* users to have
a web browser by default. Otherwise a vast majority of users would never
get Gentoo installed in the first place. The lightweight requirement
appears
Thierry Carrez wrote:
But it's a good idea to have some kind of automatic replication of
frontpage announcements to gentoo-announce and the forums, this will
help getting important messages through. However, I'm not sure *all*
frontpage contents should get replicated to gentoo-announce and the
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Stephen P. Becker wrote:
So you installed your server without reading *any* documenation? (Don't
lie). And you expect that the average user installs a Gentoo server
without at least referencing the documentation? Pa-leaze.
Funny, I've done
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:36:03 -0500 Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| So you installed your server without reading *any* documenation?
Actually, yes, I did. I can quite easily do installs without the
Nathan L. Adams wrote: [Thu Nov 03 2005, 07:02:58PM CST]
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Read the list of requirements in the GLEP. The plain text solution
meets all of them. XML fails on several.
If readability isn't a requirement, your list is
Grant Goodyear wrote:
| GuideXML is the standard for Gentoo docs for some damn good reasons!
True, but at the same time there's a reason that GLEPs can be written in
restructured text as well as guidexml. I doubt that it's accidental
that almost all GLEPs have been submitted in
Nathan L. Adams wrote:
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Stephen P. Becker wrote:
So you installed your server without reading *any* documenation? (Don't
lie). And you expect that the average user installs a Gentoo server
without at least referencing the documentation?
On 11/4/05, Nathan L. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And as a long time developer, I'm sure you represent the typical user...
Well, I'm a normal user here, and I can install gentoo quite easily
without reading the documentation. it's dead simple:
prepare the disks - get the stage tarballs -
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Lance Albertson wrote:
Nathan L. Adams wrote:
*ALL* of the official docs are GuideXML; Gentoo *expects* users to have
a web browser by default. Otherwise a vast majority of users would never
get Gentoo installed in the first place. The
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Grant Goodyear wrote:
Nathan L. Adams wrote: [Thu Nov 03 2005, 07:02:58PM CST]
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Read the list of requirements in the GLEP. The plain text solution
meets all of them. XML fails on
I am writing an eubild for an webapplication (wiki) and there are a lot
of themes available. I write an ebuild for these themes. Now my question
is where do I install these themes so that webapp-config handles them
correctly.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
103436: net-?/nnfc-0.8.1.ebuild (New Package)
I'm can mantain this package. I'm added this :)
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