Re: [gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-13 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Philippe Trottier wrote: Lisa Seelye wrote: On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 00:18 +, Ferris McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Lisa Seelye wrote: On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 14:51 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: I've been cleaning up media-fonts/

[gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
as one of the new sane features of the next portage-2.1_pre release, we're looking to cut out use.defaults support existing stable users wont be affected as the 2.0.x versions will continue to carry support for this, but some of you stable users may notice some USE flags suddenly disappearing

[gentoo-dev] Re: Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-13 Thread Duncan
Patrick Lauer posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:06:28 +0100: Very difficult - usually gcc uses ~25M per process (small source files), but I've seen 100M (most larger C++ files) and heard of ~600M per process for MySQL Limiting that is beyond the scope of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-13 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 05 January 2006 17:20, Patrick Lauer wrote: But it's already getting too bureaucratic ;-) It's getting more and more difficult to get things done, more and more people / groups / herds to wait on to decide obvious things. They shouldn't. If there is anything I learned is that a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-13 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 05 January 2006 18:03, Patrick Lauer wrote: Exactly :-) But I guess many among us have become a bit disillusioned and try to stay away from what is perceived as useless trolling and silly infights. So things either stall in discussion or get implemented with the obvious flawed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:12:27 -0600 Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Last I knew, its not a simple task for generating those nice looking | html pages that ciaranm made a while back for the developer docs. | When I asked him about (he can probably provide more detail), It took | a lot of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-13 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Patrick Lauer wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 19:53 +0900, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: Make this distributed tool for tar zip bzip2 and gzip and I'm in, I don't think it would be useful with anything else than Gigabit Ethernet. One 2Ghz CPU can't even saturate a 100Mbit line with bzip2 as far as I

Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Kalin KOZHUHAROV
Mike Frysinger wrote: as one of the new sane features of the next portage-2.1_pre release, we're looking to cut out use.defaults support existing stable users wont be affected as the 2.0.x versions will continue to carry support for this, but some of you stable users may notice some USE

Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 06:57:24AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: as one of the new sane features of the next portage-2.1_pre release, we're looking to cut out use.defaults support existing stable users wont be affected as the 2.0.x versions will continue to carry support for this, but some

Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 13 January 2006 11:15, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: Or is it because I always had: USE=-* ${MY_USE} in /etc/make.conf? yes -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 06:57:24AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: as one of the new sane features of the next portage-2.1_pre release, we're looking to cut out use.defaults support Could you add a USE_ORDER without auto to /etc/make.globals for that release, please, or alternatively provide some

Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Alec Joseph Warner
Can we get this on the website/announce? I agree that auto-use is the suck and that it needs to die a long excrutiating death, but I think a lot of users will be like wtf when 2.1 hits stable and --newuse turns up a massive crapload of packages. Whether this announced now, or when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-13 Thread Philippe Trottier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: Patrick Lauer wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 19:53 +0900, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: Make this distributed tool for tar zip bzip2 and gzip and I'm in, I don't think it would be useful with anything else than Gigabit Ethernet.

Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread solar
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 06:57 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: as one of the new sane features of the next portage-2.1_pre release, we're looking to cut out use.defaults support I see this as a good and bad thing. Good in one hand that less autojunk would be enabled like python/perl bindings not

Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:13:02 -0500 solar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The autouse itself is not a bad feature or idea if it were used properly. | Problem is that it's not been used properly. No, it's bad. It's another thing that makes correct dependency resolution impossible. -- Ciaran McCreesh :

Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 13 January 2006 15:13, solar wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 06:57 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: as one of the new sane features of the next portage-2.1_pre release, we're looking to cut out use.defaults support I see this as a good and bad thing. Good in one hand that less autojunk

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 snip According to previous posts, USE_ORDER will be going away with use.defaults, because that was really the only reason it was there in the first place as there's no other sane ordering possible, if it is removed. There are other sane orderings

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Duncan
Alec Warner posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 13 Jan 2006 22:47:40 -0500: snip According to previous posts, USE_ORDER will be going away with use.defaults, because that was really the only reason it was there in the first place as there's no other sane ordering possible, if it