[gentoo-dev] Re: [Last Rites] NVU

2006-03-20 Thread Daniel Glazman
Jory A. Pratt anarchy at gentoo.org writes: As most are aware nvu has not had any activity in almost a year. Unless someone steps up or has any valid reason we should continue to patch nvu to keep it in the tree please speak up. If noone has any complaints I will p.mask Wed. March

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Last Rites] NVU

2006-03-20 Thread Jory A. Pratt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Glazman wrote: Jory A. Pratt anarchy at gentoo.org writes: As most are aware nvu has not had any activity in almost a year. Unless someone steps up or has any valid reason we should continue to patch nvu to keep it in the tree

[gentoo-dev] 2.6.16 and packages in conflict

2006-03-20 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, Linux 2.6.16 will be in the tree very soon. Assuming there aren't any major problems, we'll hopefully be marking it stable in 2-3 weeks. As usual, please bring any conflicts (e.g. compilation failures of kernel module ebuilds against 2.6.16) to our attention by making them block bug

[gentoo-dev] package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Roy Marples
Hi list. I've been working on getting a Gentoo version of Debians resolvconf package into portage. It's basically a re-write of the internals (which I don't like) but the command line, setup and plugin system are 100% compatible (except for the plugins which may need one line changing). As

Re: [gentoo-dev] package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 20 March 2006 18:42, Roy Marples wrote: Now, if the commandline is the same, should the package name be the same? If so, what version number should I be using? It's currently just called resolvconf-0.1 I would say gentoo-resolvconf as it's a rewrite/fork. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò

Re: [gentoo-dev] package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Roy Marples
On Monday 20 March 2006 17:59, Luca Barbato wrote: why not having it implemented as eselect module? ^^; I am not familiar with eselect. Also, I fail to see the benefit of using the eselect framework when /sbin/functions.sh provides what I need as a base. Of course, feel free to talk me around.

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-gfx/bootsplash-themes-livecd

2006-03-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
Since we have switched to using splash-themes-livecd over a year ago, I'd like to whack this package. We have only 1 2.4-based kernel that I am aware of that has bootsplash support, so it is very likely that this is completely unused anymore. If there's no objections in the next few days, I'll

Re: [gentoo-dev] package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Daniel Drake
Roy Marples wrote: Now, if the commandline is the same, should the package name be the same? If so, what version number should I be using? It's currently just called resolvconf-0.1 Definately change the name of the package (if not the script itself) otherwise the Debian resolvconf author

Re: [gentoo-dev] package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Daniel Drake wrote: Roy Marples wrote: Now, if the commandline is the same, should the package name be the same? If so, what version number should I be using? It's currently just called resolvconf-0.1 Definately change the name of the package (if not the script itself) otherwise the Debian

[gentoo-dev] Re: package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Duncan
Chris Gianelloni posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:00:15 -0500: I made a fork of hwdata for Gentoo's needs on the LiveCD and it is hwdata-gentoo (to match hwdata-knoppix and hwdata-morphix for their respective distributions). I think it makes more sense to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: package naming

2006-03-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 12:37 -0700, Duncan wrote: Agreed if keeping the old name with a gentoo prefix/suffix is chosen. However, nearly all Gentoo system tools are ewhatever (not only portage related either, as there's eselect), so I'd suggest eresolv. He was referring to the *package* name.

[gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Daniel Drake
more open? I can't think of a decent way to phrase the subject line which might make it sound it was coming from a native English speaker..ahem..anyway: I read a complimentary comment from a Gentoo user recently (can't remember exactly where, so this is from memory). It was something along

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:07:37 + Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | One of the bigger problems is that we have a huge user community who | are keen on contributing, but we have such a high barrier for entry | to the developer community. Quite rightly so - we're dealing with a | live tree,

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Karol Pasternak (reb)

2006-03-20 Thread Jeff Walter
Danny van Dyk wrote: Karol joined Gentoo to help with the Gentoo/OpenBSD project. I guess Flameeyes will be happy with another slav^H^Hminio^H^H^Hhelping hand :-) Welcome aboard Karol! Watch this list closely for the day Danny's backspace key breaks and we all get to see what he's really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 3/21/06, Bret Towe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps having some proxys of a sort that accept patchs and such from trusted users that would commit fixes to portage would help. similiar to the kernel format that way users can 'commit'/help out quickly without having to go thru the long

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread m h
I'm not a gentoo dev (just a satisfied user), but I lurk on this list. I was at PyCon last month. I would estimate that about 40% of the people there ran linux on their laptops. The most popular distros were gentoo and ubuntu. (Not this is not a scientific study, just my observations from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:58:07 +0100 Stefan Schweizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | It doe snot need to be the portage-tree .. but an official | user-overlay or contrib-overlay would definitely help to get a lot of | people involved. The problem is security. It's extremely easy to sneak some very

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread George Shapovalov
Monday, 20. March 2006 23:07, Daniel Drake Ви написали: I'm looking for ideas - preferably big, drastic, shiny ones. Ignore any issues relating to migration away from our current system. What would be the _ideal_ way for Gentoo to handle contributions from anyone? Any ideas? Heh, and that bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread George Shapovalov
A quick update. Please use this link for the proposal instead of the one listed in original post in the bug: http://dev.gentoo.org/~george/epsp/proposal.html The files have been migrated to my gentoo space, as proper. I just added comment to the bug and I'll put up some remonder at the place

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread m h
George- Not sure if you have seen this or not. Check out Conary [1] from rPath. Think of it as Rpm+Ebuild+Distributed. It's done by some people who used to be at Redhat and in one of the whitepapers, they specifically mention portage/ebuild. -matt 1 - http://wiki.conary.com/FrontPage On

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Mike Auty
Well, I think a lot of what I've been thinking recently has already been said by Daniel. I'm actually in the middle of being inducted and I'm just concerned that I'm going to get extra responsibility without any real positive aspects for me. I don't really *want* access to check into

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Alec Warner
m h wrote: I'm not a gentoo dev (just a satisfied user), but I lurk on this list. I was at PyCon last month. I would estimate that about 40% of the people there ran linux on their laptops. The most popular distros were gentoo and ubuntu. (Not this is not a scientific study, just my

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 12:32, Alec Warner wrote: m h wrote: I'm not a gentoo dev (just a satisfied user), but I lurk on this list. I was at PyCon last month. I would estimate that about 40% of the people there ran linux on their laptops. The most popular distros were gentoo and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making the developer community more open

2006-03-20 Thread Alin Nastac
Daniel Drake wrote: We have a large expense on both sides when adding a developer to the project. I personally have lost developer candidates, undoubtedly more technically experienced than myself, who simply did not have the time to go through a month-long recruitment process which involved

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] DB and binary dependency

2006-03-20 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
I'm replying to this one, but I've read the whole thread... On 3/16/06, Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 15 March 2006 16:13, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hello, There is any provision for binary dependency on Gentoo/Portage? The way it works now is quite messy