[gentoo-dev] net-mail/mailman needs a new maintainer

2006-04-13 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
net-mail/mailman is without an ebuild maintainer and has an open security bug 
#129136

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129136

Anyone willing to take care of this package in the future, please update 
metadata.xml and CC yourself on the bug.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] net-mail/mailman needs a new maintainer

2006-04-13 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Donnerstag, 13. April 2006 07:07 schrieb Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen:
 net-mail/mailman is without an ebuild maintainer and has an open security
 bug #129136

 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129136

 Anyone willing to take care of this package in the future, please update
 metadata.xml and CC yourself on the bug.

I'm running mailman on a server and was already looking at improving the 
ebuild a bit.

So I think I can take it. I hope I'll get to the revision-bump today, but I 
can't promise how fast I'll get to the other stuff that's pending (especially 
webapp-config).

For the long term, I plan to include at least optionally the patches for 
searchable archives, vhosts and gpg-lists.

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[gentoo-dev] automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread Patrick McLean
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For about a month now, we (amd64) have had some code in our
profile.bashrc that filters CFLAGS that are unrecognized by gcc, and
warnings the user about bad CFLAGS.

So far it has worked fairly well, and it has really cut down on the
number of bugs that filed by people with extreme ricer CFLAGS. It might
be an idea to have something similar in the global bashrc, and have a
system for arches to customize the CFLAGS that are warned about.

The code is at gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/amd64/profile.bashrc
for those who want to see it.
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[gentoo-dev] Re: automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread Duncan
Patrick McLean posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,  on
Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:50:11 -0400:

 For about a month now, we (amd64) have had some code in our
 profile.bashrc that filters CFLAGS that are unrecognized by gcc, and
 warnings the user about bad CFLAGS.
 
 So far it has worked fairly well, and it has really cut down on the
 number of bugs that filed by people with extreme ricer CFLAGS. It might
 be an idea to have something similar in the global bashrc, and have a
 system for arches to customize the CFLAGS that are warned about.
 
 The code is at gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/amd64/profile.bashrc
 for those who want to see it.

Not just ricer flags (or I wouldn't call them that anyway and unlike
some, can explain each one and why I use it)...  I'm running gcc-4.0.x and
4.1.0, the latter as my default compiler, in addition to 3.4.6.  One of
the flags I use (-ftree-pre) isn't recognized by 3.4.x, and it has been a
bit of a hassle removing it each time I revert to 3.4.6 to test something
or other.

I've been /very/ impressed with the way this works, as now I don't have to
worry about killing the flag when I switch gccs, because the profile code
kills it for me! =8^)  The first time I noticed it, I wondered what kind
of magic the ebuild was doing.  Then I saw it on a couple others, and then
happened across it while reviewing the profile.  It works!  =8^)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread Alec Warner
Patrick McLean wrote:
 For about a month now, we (amd64) have had some code in our
 profile.bashrc that filters CFLAGS that are unrecognized by gcc, and
 warnings the user about bad CFLAGS.
 
 So far it has worked fairly well, and it has really cut down on the
 number of bugs that filed by people with extreme ricer CFLAGS. It might
 be an idea to have something similar in the global bashrc, and have a
 system for arches to customize the CFLAGS that are warned about.
 
 The code is at gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/amd64/profile.bashrc
 for those who want to see it.

Except you need a way for them to turn it off, and you do not currently
provide one.  We can set default flags all we want, but I don't see
filtering 'bad' flags as necessarily our problem.  If you want to say:

Hey we have had issues with people filing bogus bug reports with CFLAGS
that are completely inappropriate, so by default we check the sanity of
your CFLAGS, this is how you turn those checks off. then I'd be ok with it.

Most of the Ricers won't read it, and maybe you can print a warning that
CFLAG checking is disabled.

However leaving it on all the time merely imposes penalties on the power
users who wish to use your profile.  Your profile is a tool that should
be useful to all classes of users.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread Patrick McLean
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Alec Warner wrote:
 
 Except you need a way for them to turn it off, and you do not currently
 provide one.  We can set default flags all we want, but I don't see
 filtering 'bad' flags as necessarily our problem.  If you want to say:
 
 Hey we have had issues with people filing bogus bug reports with CFLAGS
 that are completely inappropriate, so by default we check the sanity of
 your CFLAGS, this is how you turn those checks off. then I'd be ok with it.

 Most of the Ricers won't read it, and maybe you can print a warning that
 CFLAG checking is disabled.
 
 However leaving it on all the time merely imposes penalties on the power
 users who wish to use your profile.  Your profile is a tool that should
 be useful to all classes of users.
 

The only flags that are actually removed are the _invalid_ flags. These are the
flags that gcc does not accept, and will error out on. The bad flags, IE the
ones that the developers consider to be broken, but that are accepted by gcc are
not filtered, the profile simply prints a warning and pauses for 5 seconds to
encourage users to read the warning, it does not automatically filter any flags
that the compiler accepts.
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[gentoo-dev] Re: automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread R Hill

Patrick McLean wrote:

For about a month now, we (amd64) have had some code in our
profile.bashrc that filters CFLAGS that are unrecognized by gcc, and
warnings the user about bad CFLAGS.


The broken flags part is useful.


So far it has worked fairly well, and it has really cut down on the
number of bugs that filed by people with extreme ricer CFLAGS. It might
be an idea to have something similar in the global bashrc, and have a
system for arches to customize the CFLAGS that are warned about.


There's an endless number of CFLAGS that could be warned about, and just as many 
situations where they're actually useful.  Aside, I've yet to hear of _anything_ 
that's broken because of -fvisibility-inlines-hidden. (course someone will 
undoubtedly point one out now ;))


Maybe if the sleep 5 were removed this would be helpful.  Right now i'm just 
rm-ing the bashrc in my --sync alias.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
R Hill wrote:
 There's an endless number of CFLAGS that could be warned about, and just
 as many situations where they're actually useful.  Aside, I've yet to
 hear of _anything_ that's broken because of -fvisibility-inlines-hidden.
 (course someone will undoubtedly point one out now ;))

How about kde?



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[gentoo-dev] Re: automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread R Hill

Donnie Berkholz wrote:

R Hill wrote:

There's an endless number of CFLAGS that could be warned about, and just
as many situations where they're actually useful.  Aside, I've yet to
hear of _anything_ that's broken because of -fvisibility-inlines-hidden.
(course someone will undoubtedly point one out now ;))


How about kde?


Close, that's -fvisibility=hidden. :)

  http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.0/changes.html#visibility

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