Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Anant Narayanan
Hi, If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. If it's not too late for this month's meeting, I'd like to discuss the possibility of including a new post in our developer base -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Jean-Noël Rivasseau
I totally second this proposal. I think this would be especially great for small or rarely used packages. I can think of at least a dozen packages that I'd love to see in Portage, but they are not in the tree. Allowing for people that are not developers to maintain easy or not crucial packages is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:41:58 +0530 Anant Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. If it's not too late for this month's meeting, I'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 22:41 Wed 05 Mar , Anant Narayanan wrote: If it's not too late for this month's meeting, I'd like to discuss the possibility of including a new post in our developer base - the package maintainer. ... I'd really like for us to think through this proposal - I strongly believe that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Anant Narayanan
Please elaborate on how a full.fledged developer would differ from a package maintainer technically. What requirements and/or priviledges do you think could be reduced? I haven't thought that through fully (in hopes of a few good suggestions!), but off the top of my head, maintainers don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Please elaborate on how a full.fledged developer would differ from a package maintainer technically. What requirements and/or priviledges do you think could be reduced? Marius Perhaps there could be some honor code system at least, where the package maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:41:32 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Please elaborate on how a full.fledged developer would differ from a package maintainer technically. What requirements and/or priviledges do you think could be reduced? Marius Perhaps there could be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Doug Goldstein
Thomas Anderson wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:41:32 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Please elaborate on how a full.fledged developer would differ from a package maintainer technically. What requirements and/or priviledges do you think could be reduced? Marius

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Anant Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you may argue that we already have proxy-maintainers. That's a great idea, all I'm asking for is for us to formalize the position. Giving a proxy-maintainer an official acknowledgement will definitely attract

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:59:55 Doug Goldstein wrote: Thomas Anderson wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:41:32 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Please elaborate on how a full.fledged developer would differ from a package maintainer technically. What requirements and/or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:59:55 Doug Goldstein wrote: Thomas Anderson wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:41:32 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Please elaborate on how a full.fledged developer would differ from a package maintainer technically. What requirements and/or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package maintainers? Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Doug Goldstein
Thomas Anderson wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:59:55 Doug Goldstein wrote: Thomas Anderson wrote: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:41:32 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Please elaborate on how a full.fledged developer would differ from a package

[gentoo-dev] Proposal for (next year's probably) SoC

2008-03-05 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
I think it could be useful to learn from other projects' handling of SoC. The FFmpeg project has a list of qualification tasks for the students to complete before they can accepted into SoC, as you can see From [1]. The tasks are minor tasks that don't require a lot of time at hand, but gives a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 16:05:09 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package maintainers? Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Anant Narayanan wrote: [stuff] So basically, what you're looking for is something like Arch Linux's Trusted User (TU) concept[1]. That works for Arch, because they have 5 repositories (including a community repo), but I'm not sure how well that would fit Gentoo, where there's just one. We'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: On Wednesday 05 March 2008 16:05:09 Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package maintainers?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 04:07:48PM -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. So what you're looking for is committer ACLs. Gentoo's CVS currently does not use any form of ACLs to restrict

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for (next year's probably) SoC

2008-03-05 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:07:37 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: The tasks are minor tasks that don't require a lot of time at hand, but gives a good way to judge if the person is in for the experience or the money, and might be able to cut the deal even for Gentoo devs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 06-Mar-08, at 2:35 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for these package maintainers? Maintainers will also go through

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Alec Warner
On 3/5/08, Anant Narayanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06-Mar-08, at 2:35 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: Thomas Anderson kirjoitti: Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package maintainer the ability to commit their changes. How would you ensure ebuild quality for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 17:11:58 Anant Narayanan wrote: If it's not too late for this month's meeting, I'd like to discuss the possibility of including a new post in our developer base - the package maintainer. a) The requirements to become a package maintainer for Gentoo may be lesser