Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-09-30 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 28.09.2009, 20:23 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Pipping:
 repositories.xml
 =
   repo
   name=sping
   quality=experimental
   status=unofficial
 descriptionGentoo overlay of Sebastian Pipping/description
 homepagehttp://git.goodpoint.de/?p=overlay-sping.git/homepage
 owner type=person
   emailsebast...@pipping.org/email
   nameSebastian Pipping/name
 /owner
 source type=gitgit://git.goodpoint.de/overlay-sping.git/source
 feedhttp://git.goodpoint.de/?p=overlay-sping.git.git;a=atom/feed
   /repo
 =

What is the reason that name is an attribute? While quality, status
and type have a distinct set of allowed values, name doesn't and I'd
therefore set it as an element instead.

How about adding an attribute lang to description to be able to give
descriptions in different languages?

Cheers,
Tiziano

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-09-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:23:34 +0200
Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org wrote:
 Now please ask questions and let us know what you think.

Here's an alternative idea:

* Move the repository information into the overlays themselves. Require
  overlays to provide a file containing the description, homepage,
  owner information etc.

* After a certain amount of time, switch new versions of layman to use a
  new file that's generated from these. Any overlay that doesn't
  contain such a file is clearly unmaintained and should no longer be
  supported.

* Also use this opportunity to clean up the repo_name vs layman name
  mess: any repository that gets it wrong should not be included in the
  new layman file.

Sounds like a perfect opportunity to make sure that everything in
layman's still actively maintained and developed.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-09-30 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Tiziano Müller wrote:
 Am Montag, den 28.09.2009, 20:23 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Pipping:
 repositories.xml
 =
   repo
   name=sping
   quality=experimental
   status=unofficial
 descriptionGentoo overlay of Sebastian Pipping/description
 homepagehttp://git.goodpoint.de/?p=overlay-sping.git/homepage
 owner type=person
   emailsebast...@pipping.org/email
   nameSebastian Pipping/name
 /owner
 source type=gitgit://git.goodpoint.de/overlay-sping.git/source
 feedhttp://git.goodpoint.de/?p=overlay-sping.git.git;a=atom/feed
   /repo
 =
 
 What is the reason that name is an attribute? While quality, status
 and type have a distinct set of allowed values, name doesn't and I'd
 therefore set it as an element instead.

I don't see value in that change and I like name as it is.


 How about adding an attribute lang to description to be able to give
 descriptions in different languages?

Done.
http://git.goodpoint.de/?p=overlays-xml-specification.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7d068d772aa9961338f78d4b91b4783f43ff40f



Sebastian



Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-09-30 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 30-09-2009 17:36:47 +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
 Tiziano Müller wrote:
  Am Montag, den 28.09.2009, 20:23 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Pipping:
  repositories.xml
  =
repo
name=sping
quality=experimental
status=unofficial
  descriptionGentoo overlay of Sebastian Pipping/description
  homepagehttp://git.goodpoint.de/?p=overlay-sping.git/homepage
  owner type=person
emailsebast...@pipping.org/email
nameSebastian Pipping/name
  /owner
  source type=gitgit://git.goodpoint.de/overlay-sping.git/source
  feedhttp://git.goodpoint.de/?p=overlay-sping.git.git;a=atom/feed
/repo
  =
  
  What is the reason that name is an attribute? While quality, status
  and type have a distinct set of allowed values, name doesn't and I'd
  therefore set it as an element instead.
 
 I don't see value in that change and I like name as it is.

Point remains that it looks in-consistant, for repo, name is an
attribute, while for owner it is a sub-element.  Why having attributes
in the first place anyway?
It's XML, so it may be extremely annoying to parse/use.


-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level



Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-09-30 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:23:34 +0200
 Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org wrote:
 Now please ask questions and let us know what you think.
 
 Here's an alternative idea:
 
 * Move the repository information into the overlays themselves. Require
   overlays to provide a file containing the description, homepage,
   owner information etc.

I have created another script yesterday that can auto-merge information
from gitosis.conf into repositories.xml.  With that script in a Git hook
setting up new Git-based Gentoo-hosted overlays requires changes at only
an single place and propagates to repositories.xml and
layman-global.txt.  (The only extension needed to make it work is adding
a line gentoo-is-overlay = True to Git repos that are overlays in
gitosis.conf.  The gentoo- prefix is meant as a namespace and gitosis
upstream confirmed that this works without interfering with gitosis itself.)

At the moment moving overlay meta info into the overlays does not seem
like a good idea to.  It would mean that any script working with
overlays needs to check the repo out to get to that data.  That doesn't
sound like fun to me.


 Sounds like a perfect opportunity to make sure that everything in
 layman's still actively maintained and developed.

Let me second that.



Sebastian



Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-09-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:51:02 +0200
Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org wrote:
 At the moment moving overlay meta info into the overlays does not seem
 like a good idea to.  It would mean that any script working with
 overlays needs to check the repo out to get to that data.  That
 doesn't sound like fun to me.

No, you can copy the data into your master file. It's just that the
original source of the data would be the repository, not the person
adding the repository to the list.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-09-30 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Fabian Groffen wrote:
 Point remains that it looks in-consistant, for repo, name is an
 attribute, while for owner it is a sub-element.  Why having attributes
 in the first place anyway?

It's closer to the original layman-global.txt which also makes the
converter scripts simpler (and faster) than the element approach.  I
think it's just right.


 It's XML, so it may be extremely annoying to parse/use.

Please elaborate on that.



Sebastian




Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-09-30 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:51:02 +0200
 Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org wrote:
 At the moment moving overlay meta info into the overlays does not seem
 like a good idea to.  It would mean that any script working with
 overlays needs to check the repo out to get to that data.  That
 doesn't sound like fun to me.
 
 No, you can copy the data into your master file. It's just that the
 original source of the data would be the repository, not the person
 adding the repository to the list.

If it can change, it needs to be kept in sync.  I really don't think it
belongs in there.



Sebastian




Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman-global.txt, repositories.xml, layman, overlays.gentoo.org

2009-09-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:00:13 +0200
Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org wrote:
 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
  On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:51:02 +0200
  Sebastian Pipping webmas...@hartwork.org wrote:
  At the moment moving overlay meta info into the overlays does not
  seem like a good idea to.  It would mean that any script working
  with overlays needs to check the repo out to get to that data.
  That doesn't sound like fun to me.
  
  No, you can copy the data into your master file. It's just that the
  original source of the data would be the repository, not the person
  adding the repository to the list.
 
 If it can change, it needs to be kept in sync.  I really don't think
 it belongs in there.

Sure. Just periodically fetch the repository centrally. Have a master
list of sync URLs with expected repository names, and use that to
generate the full master list that includes metadata.

Added bonus: you can quickly remove any repository that no longer
exists.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add operator + for licenses (EAPI-4 ?)

2009-09-30 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Zac Medico wrote:
 I propose support for license groups in ebuilds then, I guess.
 
 That seems like a reasonable solution. So, an ebuild can do
 something like LICENSE=@GPL-2+ and that will expand to whatever
 the definition of the GPL-2+ license group happens to be. When a new
 version of GPL license comes out, we simple add it to that group,
 and none of the corresponding ebuilds have to be updated.

I made a bug from that so it doesn't get lost.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287192



Sebastian