Re: [gentoo-dev] CAcert certificate distribution license to third parties (i.e. distributors like gentoo)

2009-12-15 Thread Daniel Black
On Tuesday 15 December 2009 07:10:25 Robin H. Johnson wrote: This is entirely moot. The CACert materials in Gentoo come from Debian's ca-certificates package. We do NOT independently supply them. http://packages.debian.org/sid/ca-certificates I think this might enable us to entirely

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: QA last rites for x11-wm/ion

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
mån 2009-12-14 klockan 19:03 -0500 skrev Mike Frysinger: On Monday 14 December 2009 18:38:36 Ryan Hill wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:46:18 +0100 Diego E. Pettenò wrote: # Diego E. Pettenò flamee...@gentoo.org (13 Dec 2009) # on behalf of QA team # # Pre-strip files (bug #241534),

[gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites for x11-wm/ion

2009-12-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote: On the other hand this may be something for treecleaners? A package that has not been bumped for 7 years? With at least three releases since, and a bumprequest open for at least one year? A link to a webside that does not exist? And both its

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag(s) for ssl (always USE ssl)

2009-12-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Peter Volkov wrote: If package has ssl support use ssl USE flag for that. In case there are alternatives, use openssl/gnutls/nss for upstream _less_ recommended implementation(s). Small problem: If a user enables more than one of openssl/gnutls/nss then he'll get the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites for x11-wm/ion

2009-12-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 15/12/2009 08:09, Ulrich Mueller a écrit : On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote: On the other hand this may be something for treecleaners? A package that has not been bumped for 7 years? With at least three releases since, and a bumprequest open for at least one year? A link to a

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag(s) for ssl (always USE ssl)

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 15 December 2009 03:05:33 Peter Volkov wrote: Hi. How do we choose USE flags in case package supports different ssl implementations? Currently we do this differently: 1. some packages use ssl USE flag and additional gnutls (or openssl) to select alternative ssl implementation, 2.

[gentoo-dev] start-stop-daemon and python-wrapper

2009-12-15 Thread Max Arnold
Hello all. I've got something similar to this: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_54ec9c3d4c15c3f52e4c71fef5d42633.xml I have custom python script which should run in background. It spawns several threads but does not daemonizes itself, so I use following init.d script ($MYSCRIPT writes

[gentoo-dev] X license cleaning spree

2009-12-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
Dear all, I've started working on one of my to-do items that is usually very low-priority : cleaning up X-related licenses in portage. This is one of the last remains of the Xorg split from a few years ago. X being a big hairy mess, those who managed the transition a few years ago decided

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites for x11-wm/ion

2009-12-15 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 08:09:20 +0100 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: Wasn't there some licence issue with this package, too? Ulrich There was with ion3, yes. It was removed for that reason about 2.5 years ago -- not just Gentoo, but basically all distros pulled it. Upstream went crazy.

Re: [gentoo-dev] X license cleaning spree

2009-12-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Rémi Cardona wrote: And here's a list of packages that use one or more of these licenses. Please let me know if/when you've fixed them. app-editors/emacs app-editors/emacs-cvs x11-libs/openmotif x11-libs/openmotif-compat Done. Ulrich

[gentoo-dev] changes to bzr.eclass

2009-12-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
Hi, bzr.eclass currently uses bzr export for copying from ${DISTDIR}/bzr-src to ${WORKDIR} in src_unpack. Unfortunately, bzr export accesses the remote repository for lightweight checkouts (which are the eclass's default), so it cannot be used off-line. Besides, it is very slow: In my test (GNU

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA last rites for x11-wm/ion

2009-12-15 Thread dev-random
According to his website (AFAIR) that license is for _names_ ion and ion3. License for code is still GPL. If you rename the project, you may ignore that terms. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 09:27:29AM +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 15/12/2009 08:09, Ulrich Mueller a écrit : On Tue, 15 Dec 2009,

Re: [gentoo-dev] X license cleaning spree

2009-12-15 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 15/12/2009 10:35, Ulrich Mueller a écrit : On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Rémi Cardona wrote: And here's a list of packages that use one or more of these licenses. Please let me know if/when you've fixed them. app-editors/emacs app-editors/emacs-cvs x11-libs/openmotif x11-libs/openmotif-compat

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag(s) for ssl (always USE ssl)

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 15/12/2009 в 09:15 +0100, Ulrich Mueller пишет: On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Peter Volkov wrote: If package has ssl support use ssl USE flag for that. In case there are alternatives, use openssl/gnutls/nss for upstream _less_ recommended implementation(s). Small problem: If a user

Re: [gentoo-dev] CAcert certificate distribution license to third parties (i.e. distributors like gentoo)

2009-12-15 Thread Richard Freeman
On 12/15/2009 01:46 AM, Daniel Black wrote: I did email the debian maintainer too. no response yet. They have interactive builds though and I guess we do too now. Will be a royal pain if every CA/software did the same thing. The last thing gentoo needs is interactive builds. XFree86 was

Re: [gentoo-dev] metdata.dtd should require herd/

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 07/12/2009 в 21:20 +0100, Thilo Bangert пишет: Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org said: On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 12:56 +0100, Thilo Bangert wrote: dev-util/cucumber herd missing Fixed, but this is really a bug in metadata.dtd, which specifies !ELEMENT

Re: [gentoo-dev] metdata.dtd should require herd/

2009-12-15 Thread Alex Alexander
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 06:19:00PM +0300, Peter Volkov wrote: So what we will do with this? It'll be great to fix dtd to follow our requirements, but there is a problem: if we change dtd like this: !ELEMENT pkgmetadata ( herd+, (maintainer|longdescription|use|upstream)* ) we will force

Re: [gentoo-dev] metdata.dtd should require herd/

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 15 December 2009 10:19:00 Peter Volkov wrote: we will force all metadata.xml files have strict order of tags: first herd/ then other tags. Currently there are about 200 ebuilds with different order http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279206#c4 . Hans's suggestion

[gentoo-dev] Re: metdata.dtd should require herd/

2009-12-15 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Volkov wrote: В Пнд, 07/12/2009 в 21:20 +0100, Thilo Bangert пишет: Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org said: On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 12:56 +0100, Thilo Bangert wrote: dev-util/cucumber herd missing Fixed, but this is

Re: [gentoo-dev] changes to bzr.eclass

2009-12-15 Thread Peter Volkov
В Втр, 15/12/2009 в 10:39 +0100, Ulrich Mueller пишет: bzr.eclass currently uses bzr export for copying from ${DISTDIR}/bzr-src to ${WORKDIR} in src_unpack. Unfortunately, bzr export accesses the remote repository for lightweight checkouts (which are the eclass's default), so it cannot be used

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI={3,4} offset-prefix semantics mandatory?

2009-12-15 Thread Fabian Groffen
With the current route where EAPI=3 will simply be EAPI=2 + offset-prefix support, and EAPI=4 will be EAPI=3 + some other stuff, the following question arose: Should an ebuild using an EAPI that has offset-prefix support make the use of that support mandatory or optional? In other words, one

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] EAPI={3,4} offset-prefix semantics mandatory?

2009-12-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Fabian Groffen wrote: With the current route where EAPI=3 will simply be EAPI=2 + offset-prefix support, That's not entirely right, as EAPI 3 will also include mtime preservation. Should an ebuild using an EAPI that has offset-prefix support make the use of that

Re: [gentoo-dev] changes to bzr.eclass

2009-12-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Peter Volkov wrote: After you wrote this I've pinged upstream. Could you try attached patch (suggested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/343218 ) and tell us here or in upstream bug if this fixes the problem? I've answered in the upstream bug tracker. Basically, it

[gentoo-dev] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. As announced by Denis (Calchan)[1], we need to have an election for the Gentoo Council's empty seat. We'll be putting up a page with all the information for the Council election, including the election officials, asap. I'll send another email

[gentoo-dev] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. As announced by Denis (Calchan)[1], we need to have an election for the Gentoo Council's empty seat. We'll be putting up a page with all the information for the Council election, including the election officials, asap. I'll send another email