Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
After all, we need to have further discussion on every single aspect so the previous meeting didn't decide anything at all The log is here [1] if anyone is interested in. [1]:http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang/files/meeting-1-log.txt On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Torsten Veller t...@gentoo.org wrote: * Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org: Accidentally I noticed an initial project meeting which was announced via planet.g.o - but I wasn't able to attend that meeting, as i noticed it just a day or two before. The meeting was also announced on the wiki alias. Five days before the meeting you should have got a mail. I think this is sufficient. -- Regards Torsten
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[gentoo-dev] RFC: changing the developer profile: FEATURES=test - FEATURES=test-fail-continue
What do you think about doing the following change in /usr/portage/profiles/targets/developer/make.defaults: replace test with test-fail-continue to make it just less frustrating (we still have a lot of test failures) Hopefully that will also make more of us use the developer profile, and detect test failures. What do you think? Paweł signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: changing the developer profile: FEATURES=test - FEATURES=test-fail-continue
Hi, On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: What do you think about doing the following change in /usr/portage/profiles/targets/developer/make.defaults: replace test with test-fail-continue to make it just less frustrating (we still have a lot of test failures) I've been thinking about this for a while. Some packages have tests that are meant only for upstream in certain conditions and are not meant to be ran during installing. As we have ARCH teams, couldn't we think a way in which TEST teams can be created? I mean, a bunch of devs only focused on making tests work or just restrict them? This team (or a Gentoo project) can work hand by hand with other teams and ARCH members. Is it even possible? Hopefully that will also make more of us use the developer profile, and detect test failures. What do you think? Paweł Best regards, -- Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek)
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: changing the developer profile: FEATURES=test - FEATURES=test-fail-continue
On 6/4/10 5:35 PM, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) wrote: I've been thinking about this for a while. Some packages have tests that are meant only for upstream in certain conditions and are not meant to be ran during installing. I think that in extreme cases src_test should not call such tests. As we have ARCH teams, couldn't we think a way in which TEST teams can be created? I mean, a bunch of devs only focused on making tests work or just restrict them? I don't think that would be effective. Making the tests work is hard, especially for packages like gcc, or python. Having FEATURES=test is intended to make developers catch these failures before checking in. However, with many packages failing tests, people started running FEATURES=-test or just stopped (or never used) the developer profile. With FEATURES=test test-fail-continue we should get best of both worlds: run tests always, but don't frustrate people by making build fail in the middle of long emerge. Paweł signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: changing the developer profile: FEATURES=test - FEATURES=test-fail-continue
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:11:45 +0200 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: What do you think about doing the following change in /usr/portage/profiles/targets/developer/make.defaults: [..] What do you think? I've never felt any need or obligation to use a developer profile. I don't think I ever saw any announcement to that effect either. What is the use of a developer profile?[1] Someone in the know, please sell it to me. :) Regards, jer [1] I've seen developers complain more and more about failing test suites. Maybe that's a related issue? Developers now use the FEATURES set out in a developer profile and can then extract some kind of validity claim from the fact that I obviously didn't do my QA? That would explain a lot.
Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: changing the developer profile: FEATURES=test - FEATURES=test-fail-continue
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:48:38 +0200 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: [1] I've seen developers complain more and more about failing test suites. Maybe that's a related issue? Developers now use the FEATURES set out in a developer profile and can then extract some kind of validity claim from the fact that I obviously didn't do my QA? That would explain a lot. That came out wrong. s|from the fact|to the effect|
[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open
Hello fellow developers and users. Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list. If you were nominated and want to run, you have to accept your nomination on the same mailing list. Here are the rules: * Council elections generally happen once a year * The council is composed of seven elected members * Nominations are allowed from June 5th 00H00 UTC to June 18th 23H59 UTC * Only Gentoo developers may be nominated * Anyone can nominate (nominating yourself is OK) * Nominees must accept their nomination before voting begins * Voting is opened from June 20th 00H00 UTC to July 03rd 23H59 UTC (there is a one day break between nominations and voting so the infra team has time to set up everything) * Only Gentoo developers that have joined the project before nomination starts may vote * Gentoo uses the Condorcet method of voting The page listing all nominations is here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/council/2010/council-201006-nominees.xml If you don't know what the Gentoo Council is, you can read about it here: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of the election officials: Roy Bamford (neddyseagoon) Ulrich Müller (ulm) Torsten Veller (tove) Robin H. Johnson (robbat2) will be doing infra magic. You can send us an e-mail (elections at gentoo dot org) or find us on Freenode (#gentoo-elections, #gentoo-dev, so on). For the elections team, Torsten
