Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu: I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the newest firmware _is_ there, just get rid of the split one. That should be probably the best approach, to actually kill of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/02/13 11:06, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu: I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the newest firmware _is_ there, just get rid of the split one. That should be probably the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread J. Roeleveld
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu: I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the newest firmware _is_ there, just get rid of the split one. That should be probably the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/02/13 11:11, J. Roeleveld wrote: Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu: I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the newest firmware _is_ there, just get rid of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote: I disagree. Why should we force users to install lots of crap (some of it being non-free) that they will never need because they don't have the hardware? Maybe you don't understand how linux-firmware package works. It only installs what you want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread J. Roeleveld
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 09/02/13 11:11, J. Roeleveld wrote: Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu: I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the newest

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:09:15 +0200 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 09/02/13 11:06, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2013, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2013/2/8 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu: I would say that we might want to review linux-firmware, and if the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Half of the firmware packages in tree install to wrong directory

2013-02-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Michał Górny wrote: I don't think that solves the license problem properly. Say, if user doesn't want non-free software, he's going to have the whole package masked. He'd have to work-around license + savedconfig. Now that I look at it, it seems that the ebuild doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Weber
On 02/09/2013 12:26 AM, Alec Warner wrote: On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Stefan Ehret eh...@planetpurple.net wrote: * * * PLEACE SAFE THE SOURCE * *

[gentoo-dev] On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
Dear fellow developers, I hope this will be trivial to most of you but after seeing bug #455900 and the vast majority of developers not even thinking twice before sedding their dep strings, I believe this needs some attention. What do subslots do: You set a subslot to a package and every time

[gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Palimaka
Hi, On 9/02/2013 23:15, Alexis Ballier wrote: Dear fellow developers, I hope this will be trivial to most of you but after seeing bug #455900 and the vast majority of developers not even thinking twice before sedding their dep strings, I believe this needs some attention. What is wrong with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:38:35 +1100 Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi, On 9/02/2013 23:15, Alexis Ballier wrote: Dear fellow developers, I hope this will be trivial to most of you but after seeing bug #455900 and the vast majority of developers not even thinking twice

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:38:35 +1100 Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: I even noticed some maintainers adding subslots dependencies on libraries that do not yet define subslots. This too seems reasonable, given that there would be no impact until the library defines a (sensible)

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/02/13 14:15, Alexis Ballier wrote: Dear fellow developers, I didn't find anything to reply directly here, so sorry for stealing this message. I just wanted to point out that people have lately been adding deps like: media-libs/libpng:= dev-libs/openssl:= That is wrong as it

[gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 10/02/2013 00:47, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 09/02/13 14:15, Alexis Ballier wrote: Dear fellow developers, I didn't find anything to reply directly here, so sorry for stealing this message. I just wanted to point out that people have lately been adding deps like: media-libs/libpng:=

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild

2013-02-09 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/02/13 22:46, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:41:04 +0100 Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 07 of February 2013 06:52:44 Peter Stuge wrote: Tomáš Chvátal wrote: we as gentoo will provide both while preffered default will be what major distros use.

[gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 9/02/2013 23:52, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:38:35 +1100 Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: I even noticed some maintainers adding subslots dependencies on libraries that do not yet define subslots. This too seems reasonable, given that there would be no impact

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild

2013-02-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: I hope somebody not Libav nor FFmpeg committer could come up with a pros-cons list. ++, but frankly the committers are probably in the best place to do any evaluation even if they likely have some bias. If you wanted to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Zac Medico
On 02/09/2013 06:05 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: Is there a difference in behaviour between 'media-libs/libpng:=' and 'media-libs/libpng' with no slot information at all? I don't know if you phrased your question as intended. Anyway, yes, the difference is that one with the slot-operator will

[gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 10/02/2013 03:06, Zac Medico wrote: On 02/09/2013 06:05 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: Is there a difference in behaviour between 'media-libs/libpng:=' and 'media-libs/libpng' with no slot information at all? I don't know if you phrased your question as intended. Anyway, yes, the difference

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/02/13 18:36, Michael Palimaka wrote: Eg. He wrote we should use 'media-libs/libpng:0=', but pre-subslots, the :0 was often (incorrectly?) omitted. I've at least been adding :0 to many packages, openssl, tiff, libpng ... ... pretty much ever since the libpng 1.4 upgrade problem in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 09-02-2013 a las 18:39 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió: On 09/02/13 18:36, Michael Palimaka wrote: Eg. He wrote we should use 'media-libs/libpng:0=', but pre-subslots, the :0 was often (incorrectly?) omitted. I've at least been adding :0 to many packages, openssl, tiff, libpng ...

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the good usage of subslots

2013-02-09 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:15:03 -0300 Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: I hope this will be trivial to most of you but after seeing bug #455900 and the vast majority of developers not even thinking twice before sedding their dep strings, I believe this needs some attention. As a note for

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
For your information, in the default/linux tree * all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way as 10.0 was * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc * all 10.0 profiles have been deprecated IMHO the waiting time of 1 year decided by Council starts now

Re: [gentoo-dev] New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-09 Thread Douglas Freed
* all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way as 10.0 was * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc * all 10.0 profiles have been deprecated Suggestion: perhaps a news item should be created for the migration to the new profiles? As a Gentoo user who

[gentoo-dev] Re: New, shiny EAPI=5 profiles: volunteer, procedure, preparations

2013-02-09 Thread Duncan
Andreas K. Huettel posted on Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:29:45 +0100 as excerpted: For your information, in the default/linux tree * all 13.0 profiles have been created and are marked stable the same way as 10.0 was * all 10.0 profiles have been removed from profiles.desc * all 10.0 profiles have

[gentoo-dev] Re: !!! ERROR !!!

2013-02-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:40:00 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Live a little. Send a funny email to a list once. I think you are on the wrong list then. Has anyone seen my stick? I left it right here... -- gcc-porting toolchain, wxwidgetslearn a language baby,