Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пн, 30/09/2013 в 00:54 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel пишет: Am Sonntag, 29. September 2013, 23:41:03 schrieb hasufell: It seems this happens more frequently these days, so I'd like to remind people to check stable reverse deps before stabilizing a library, especially when this is a

[gentoo-dev] Re: stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
This is a delicate point. If you look at the policy, it says to test few rdeps. The arch tester is in charge to test the packages on his architecture. These type of failures are _not_ architecture dependant. So, instead of have 10 ATs that are testing the same rdeps, seems logic that the

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Sergey Popov
30.09.2013 01:41, hasufell пишет: Arch teams do not test them, so this is the business of the maintainer or the dev who requested stabilization. I hope you are kidding, cause when i was joining to arch teams, i was taught to test reverse dependencies of libraries. Of course, maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Markos Chandras
On 09/29/2013 10:41 PM, hasufell wrote: Arch teams do not test them, so this is the business of the maintainer or the dev who requested stabilization. That is definitely not true. We always trained Arch Testers to test reverse dependencies as well. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Upgrade Guide and EAPI

2013-09-30 Thread heroxbd
Rick \Zero_Chaos\ Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org writes: While I'm not nearly good enough to detail how this should happen exactly, please, may I beg, do an eclass revision for this. There is an r1 candidate as Paweł initiated (bug 474358) The fact that this hasn't been done clearly implies

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2013 09:22 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 09/29/2013 10:41 PM, hasufell wrote: Arch teams do not test them, so this is the business of the maintainer or the dev who requested stabilization. That is definitely not true. We always

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
hasufell schrieb: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464536 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470554 for the first bug: net-libs/ortp media-libs/mediastreamer and net-voip/linphone are from the same upstream and actually have to be bumped and stabilized TOGETHER, because it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] autoconf now supports multislots

2013-09-30 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/17/2013 09:05 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:58:20 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/17/2013 2:48 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:33:29 -0400 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: but

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/30/2013 01:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: hasufell schrieb: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464536 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470554 for the first bug: net-libs/ortp media-libs/mediastreamer and

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-30 Thread Douglas Freed
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2013-09-13, o godz. 19:16:06 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a): OpenRC currently has a public api, consisting of librc and libeinfo (rc.h and einfo.h are the headers); however, I do not know of any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 9/29/13 11:14 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: If you look at the policy, it says to test few rdeps. And I think this is right. If you'd like things to be done in a different way, discussing them is OK, but unilaterally just skipping that is not OK. The arch tester is in charge to test the

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 9/30/13 3:44 AM, hasufell wrote: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470554 [...] for the second bug: we now have a stable net-libs/libosip that cannot be installed when you want to install stable net-libs/libeXosip... that is not a good spot. Those libraries again should have been

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Policy for migrating library consumers to subslots

2013-09-30 Thread Martin Vaeth
Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: The best solution I presently have for this problem, would be to have a PROVIDES-${PV}.json file in every package under files/ Not under files but in the eclass, and the rest of the work is done by the perl-dep function. The reason I suggested

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 09/30/2013 07:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: hasufell schrieb: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=464536 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470554 for the first bug: net-libs/ortp media-libs/mediastreamer and net-voip/linphone are from the same upstream and actually

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Markos Chandras
On 09/30/2013 11:44 AM, hasufell wrote: On 09/30/2013 09:22 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 09/29/2013 10:41 PM, hasufell wrote: Arch teams do not test them, so this is the business of the maintainer or the dev who requested stabilization. That is definitely not true. We always trained Arch

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-30 Thread William Hubbs
I just saw this today, because the original msg went to another mailbox, but the reply showed up here on -dev. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 08:39:06AM -0400, Douglas Freed wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2013-09-13, o godz. 19:16:06 William Hubbs

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:40:04AM +0200, Thomas Kahle wrote: On 09/29/2013 11:41 PM, hasufell wrote: It seems this happens more frequently these days, so I'd like to remind people to check stable reverse deps before stabilizing a library, especially when this is a non-maintainer stablereq.

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Agreed. I was always told that it is up to the arch teams to test the reverse deps. While I think this makes the most sense in general, I think maintainers do have a role. If some package has 75 reverse dependencies,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Policy for migrating library consumers to subslots

2013-09-30 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1 October 2013 04:52, Martin Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.dewrote: For instance, if you have your home-brewn version of program X, you can just install the version under its own package name Y and make it satisfy all dependencies of X. (Currently you have to mess around with