Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-24 Thread Jakub Moc
25.11.2005, 8:06:51, Flammie Pirinen wrote: > 2005-11-25, Curtis Napier sanoi, jotta: >> So on that note, I've gone over the design and gotten it closer to >> Aarons's reference. [...] Check out what I did change in the meantime. > Uh-oh. The usability regression from what the site was yesterd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords

2005-11-24 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:39:43 -0600 R Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc. > > Is this actually important? There are a hell of a lot of ebuilds that fail > under this rule. I'd like to start filing patches for some of the packages > in this li

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-24 Thread Jakub Moc
25.11.2005, 0:58:28, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Petteno" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that > | we can make it a sort of rule). > | How should manpages that are generated be man

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-24 Thread Flammie Pirinen
2005-11-25, Curtis Napier sanoi, jotta: > I honestly thought that the changes I made were better from an > accessibility standpoint. I guess I was wrong. Not really. > So on that note, I've gone over the design and gotten it closer to > Aarons's reference. [...] Check out what I did change in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-24 Thread Curtis Napier
I honestly thought that the changes I made were better from an accessibility standpoint. I guess I was wrong. Aaron was gone for months and months and months so I was listening to the feedback from others and trying to please everyone. I think I forgot that I took on this project to implement A

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 25 November 2005 00:58, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > man pages can't be considered optional (despite what RMS says). They're > not fancy extra HTML API documentation, they're core, so they don't get > a USE flag. I know (and I *really* don't like info for one) but I think I'd rather disable

Re: [gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:49:23 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that | we can make it a sort of rule). | How should manpages that are generated be managed? | | The common sense and looking to other ebuilds

[gentoo-dev] manpages that requires dependencies

2005-11-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Hi everybody, a little question that I'd like to be answered (so that we can make it a sort of rule). How should manpages that are generated be managed? The common sense and looking to other ebuilds would say to always build man pages, but when it asks me to install something like docbook-sgml-u

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 25 November 2005 00:13, Francesco R. wrote: > did'nt know that, I will try in the ebuild too Pretty please *don't* use ldconfig in ebuilds. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ Gentoo/ALT lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE pgp3ONHJ6JHnV.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-24 Thread Francesco R.
Alle 23:37, giovedì 24 novembre 2005, Robin H. Johnson el ga butta: > |On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 10:51:42PM +0100, Francesco R. wrote: > |> # for i in libmysqlclient.so libmysqlclient_r.so ; do \ > |> for j in "" .15 .15.0 .15.0.0 ; do \ > |> echo ln -s /usr/lib/${i}.15.0.0 ${i}${j} \ > |> ; done

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

2005-11-24 Thread George Prowse
On 24/11/05, lnxg33k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:49:18 +0100 Filip Bartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > | I want have Gentoo in e-shop with Linux distributions. I find, that > > | Gentoo is under GNU/GPL. Must I distribute in e-shop sources

Re: [gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 10:51:42PM +0100, Francesco R. wrote: > # for i in libmysqlclient.so libmysqlclient_r.so ; do \ > for j in "" .15 .15.0 .15.0.0 ; do \ > echo ln -s /usr/lib/${i}.15.0.0 ${i}${j} \ > ; done \ > ; done ldconfig should have created these symlinks, unless something was wrong

[gentoo-dev] my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16

2005-11-24 Thread Francesco R.
my apologies for the mess with this release of MySQL 5.0.16 and for the one will come with the dev-db/mysql-4.1.15-r1 ebuild Here is the relevant list of bugs opened (and closed) as a consequence of the new ebuild. [Bug 113451] mysql-4.1.15 re-keyworded as -* with no note in changelog as to wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo

2005-11-24 Thread lnxg33k
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:49:18 +0100 Filip Bartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | I want have Gentoo in e-shop with Linux distributions. I find, that > | Gentoo is under GNU/GPL. Must I distribute in e-shop sources of > | Gentoo too? Where I can found them(sources)? Where

Re: [gentoo-dev] [OT] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation

2005-11-24 Thread lnxg33k
A few posts here have mentioned Catalyst and its respective documentation. I remember tossing out some bugs about the docs and was told they were old and being redone. A quick google seems to bring up some dated stuff. Anyway, are those docs up yet (I'd even be interested in working copies) and, if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer's guides?

2005-11-24 Thread Grobian
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Thursday 24 November 2005 21:25, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: *shrug* I'm not sure that the existing docs team is the best way of handling developer documentation. If it's just matter of fixing the English in it, I don't think there's much technical matter they w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer's guides?

2005-11-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 24 November 2005 21:25, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > *shrug* I'm not sure that the existing docs team is the best way of > handling developer documentation. If it's just matter of fixing the English in it, I don't think there's much technical matter they would be required to think about. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer's guides?

2005-11-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:58:46 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Thursday 24 November 2005 20:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > Of course, the problem | > with that is that some our package maintainers couldn't stick | > together a coherent English sentence even if they w

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Marien Zwart (marienz)

2005-11-24 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 09:51:25AM -0600, Brian Harring wrote: > Please welcome Marien Zwart, aka marienz to the crew. He's joining up > as a python monkey, working on twisted (2.x stable ebuilds anyone? > ^.^), portage 3 hacking, and pretty much anything python wise. > Finally, he's been helpin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer's guides?

2005-11-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 24 November 2005 20:50, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Of course, the problem > with that is that some our package maintainers couldn't stick together > a coherent English sentence even if they were paid to do so... That's why I was thinking of a complete project with some doc guys assigned t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer's guides?

2005-11-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:08:19 +0100 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Thursday 24 November 2005 14:51, Grant Goodyear wrote: | > Assuming that they're reasonably well written, why not add them to | > The Doc? | | For the same reason the doc born outside GDP: quick changes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] enewuser/enewgroup getting their own eclass

2005-11-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 08:54:41AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 03:44 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:15:52PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > OK. I've been looking at some of these issues we've been having, and > > > I've been thinking of

Re: [gentoo-dev] R/O CVS access and its purpose for ATs (was Email subdomain)

2005-11-24 Thread Lance Albertson
George Prowse wrote: > What about finding out how many ATs are going to be using it at the > start and limiting the amount of ATs with access to <40-50 until > either a new way for access has been decided on or new equipment has > been brought it. Currently I wouldn't need it because I am without

Re: [gentoo-dev] R/O CVS access and its purpose for ATs (was Email subdomain)

2005-11-24 Thread George Prowse
On 23/11/05, Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Ostrow wrote: > > > Lance: > > > > I know this is a far cry from what you are proposing, and I understand > > that the present CVS server cannot handle this sort of load but I > > believe that this was the original intention at least.

[gentoo-dev] apache2 default for 2006.0

2005-11-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
I'd like to add the apache2 USE flag to 2006.0's profile. This would not resolve bug #95140, but would keep users from hitting it by default. With apache being such a popular package, having it fail from a default stage3 installation reflects poorly on us all. If I haven't heard any good objectio

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer's guides?

2005-11-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 24 November 2005 14:51, Grant Goodyear wrote: > Assuming that they're reasonably well written, why not add them to The > Doc? For the same reason the doc born outside GDP: quick changes, for once. for example the xine mantainer's guide yesterday was changed "on the spot" when the TEXT

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 20:57 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Nope, not missing anything. Thought I said it, compability isn't a > > reason to hold this up anymore, only asking if people want multi-hashes > > now at the expense of a bigger tree when Manifest2 comes along. > > I'm referring to portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 11:38 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote: > > I'd rather wait for Manifest2 support. > > What is the ETA for the GLEP and the implementation after i? > > GLEP I still have to start writing (mostly a reformatting of a mail I > sent a long time ago), there is already a prototype impleme

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
Marius Mauch wrote: [Thu Nov 24 2005, 04:38:44AM CST] > GLEP I still have to start writing (mostly a reformatting of a mail I > sent a long time ago), there is already a prototype implementation > (doesn't cover everything yet but works generally), target is > for when current trunk will be release

Re: [gentoo-dev] enewuser/enewgroup getting their own eclass

2005-11-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 03:44 +, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:15:52PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > OK. I've been looking at some of these issues we've been having, and > > I've been thinking of moving enewuser, egetent, and enewgroup to their > > own eclass. This wil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer's guides?

2005-11-24 Thread Grant Goodyear
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: [Thu Nov 24 2005, 05:31:32AM CST] > What I'm waiting for now are comments if someone has ideas where to > put guides that does not belong directly to an existant project. And > if someone wants to join the effort of documenting maintenance process > for his packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-24 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 24 November 2005 10:07, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:49:20 +0900 > > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 24 November 2005 09:32, Marius Mauch wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 01:04:32 +0100 > > > > > > Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > O

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainer's guides?

2005-11-24 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 24 November 2005 01:01, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > I'm going in the next days to add more and more documentation about this as > I want to leave enough notes for someone else to step over if I have to go > away for a medium/long period. Okay, brix suggested me to explain better

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multi hash support in portage - status

2005-11-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:33:34 +0100 Marc Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > [..] > > So much for background information, now to the actual question: > > Would you rather have now the ability to create multi-hash digests > > and Manifests with the result of a short and mid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-24 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 06:23:37AM +0100, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > Like I said before, I rather like the infinity sign. The trustees have had a > discussion on this part too. Their decision was that we need a "strong, > compelling case for not using it since it is something the community has > voted

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-24 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 24 November 2005 06:50, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 06:23:37AM +0100, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 06:05:53PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > Afaicr, the infinity sign will be kept, but I know a huge > > > > discussion will be held on this.