[gentoo-dev] Re: Optimizing performance

2005-12-28 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:37:43 -0700: and if what I read was incorrect, than so is the above. Ugh! s/than/then/ -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 18:37, Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Tuesday 27 December 2005 18:07, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: It's worse than O(n^n) if you try to do USE dep conflict resolution too... Theoretically yes, practically the worst number of dependency levels we speak of to walk up/down is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:36:28 +0100 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The problem is caused by packages being dependencies from multiple | sides. The trick is that if a package is pulled in by one side it | should be taken for granted by the other side if it satisfies it's | dependencies.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 16:42, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:36:28 +0100 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The problem is caused by packages being dependencies from multiple | sides. The trick is that if a package is pulled in by one side it | should be taken

Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 23:12, Petteri Räty wrote: This has the side affect that the library location code is not used until I code or take the logic from glibc from example. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/bin $ checkdeps.rb subversion dev-libs/apr dev-libs/apr-util dev-libs/expat

[gentoo-dev] shoving utils from xpdf to poppler...

2005-12-28 Thread Carsten Lohrke
Hi Daniel, what you've done breaks runtime dependencies, if not for other packages so at least for KDE. Such a change should be announced on the gentoo-dev mailing list before you do it. Also a tracking bug to coordinate stabilization of new ebuild revisions will be needed, once the changed

Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Tuesday 27 December 2005 23:12, Petteri Räty wrote: This has the side affect that the library location code is not used until I code or take the logic from glibc from example. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/bin $ checkdeps.rb subversion dev-libs/apr dev-libs/apr-util

[gentoo-dev] Re: shoving utils from xpdf to poppler...

2005-12-28 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 17:18 +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote: Hi Daniel, what you've done breaks runtime dependencies, if not for other packages so at least for KDE. Such a change should be announced on the gentoo-dev mailing list before you do it. Also a tracking bug to coordinate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning

2005-12-28 Thread Olivier Fisette
On Monday, 26 December 2005 11:57 am, Jakub Moc wrote: emboss - Adds support for the European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite. WTF? Why are we abusing make.defaults for such stuff? Quote from bug #82428: The reason why I think emboss should be enabled by default is that the vast

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: shoving utils from xpdf to poppler...

2005-12-28 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 17:32, you wrote: It's not supposed to break runtime dependencies.  Everything that was installed before is installed now, in the same location. But installed by another package. Of course it breaks dependencies when you depend on xpdf, because you expect it

[gentoo-dev] Re: Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing

2005-12-28 Thread Peter
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:06:43 +0100, Pawe Madej wrote: In my opinion if you want to build monolitic ebuild in system like gentoo where everything is going to be modular you should try some local USE flags for example monolitic to install all the stuff you are puting into it and of cours flags

Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 17:26, Petteri Räty wrote: I just picked some package as an example of the output with openoffice-bin. My understanding here is that if you link against those libraries, it will break break binary packages because dependencies don't say to pull in required

Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Wednesday 28 December 2005 17:26, Petteri Räty wrote: I just picked some package as an example of the output with openoffice-bin. My understanding here is that if you link against those libraries, it will break break binary packages because dependencies don't say to

Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 11:11, Paul de Vrieze wrote: Unfortunately scanelf also doesn't know (nor can it know) no utility will be able to passively calculate dependencies that happen via dlopen() or any similar dynamic library loading interface -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-28 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 21:13, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 28 December 2005 11:11, Paul de Vrieze wrote: Unfortunately scanelf also doesn't know (nor can it know) no utility will be able to passively calculate dependencies that happen via dlopen() or any similar dynamic library

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing

2005-12-28 Thread fire-eyes
I _do_ see the argument that including the extra applications could be spun off from the main package. I would appreciate nvidia-settings remaining stand alone, due to this as of yet unresolved bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114649 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages in the tree

2005-12-28 Thread Bjarke Istrup Pedersen
Mark Loeser skrev: Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So, everyone that has a binary package in the tree, I would appreciate it if you could put the sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 depend into your package if necessary. Well, you can tell I didn't exactly think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages in the tree

2005-12-28 Thread Mark Loeser
Bjarke Istrup Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does this mean that gcc-3.4 will no longer have libstdc++ as a dependency? :-D That is what I hope to accomplish, yes. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Viability of other SCM/version control systems for big repo's

2005-12-28 Thread Luca Barbato
Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I know some of you have done research on how gentoo-x86 converts over to other systems besides CVS such as SVN, arch, etc. But I can't find the info anywhere in my archives. Could whoever's got it, post it? I'm

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] emerge-webrsync patch

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Varner
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:04 +0100, Johannes Fahrenkrug wrote: I put a nice -n 19 in front of the tar, rsync and emerge metadata commands because normally calling emerge-webrsync renders my box unusable for 15 to 20 minutes. You still notice a difference when using nice but everything seems

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] emerge-webrsync patch

2005-12-28 Thread Johannes Fahrenkrug
Paul Varner wrote: Instead of hardcoding the nice value, use PORTAGE_NICENESS. Here is how it is done in revdep-rebuild # Obey PORTAGE_NICENESS PORTAGE_NICENESS=$(portageq envvar PORTAGE_NICENESS) [ ! -z $PORTAGE_NICENESS ] renice $PORTAGE_NICENESS $$ /dev/null Good point. Is this

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] emerge-webrsync patch

2005-12-28 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 05:38:02PM +0100, Johannes Fahrenkrug wrote: Paul Varner wrote: Instead of hardcoding the nice value, use PORTAGE_NICENESS. Here is how it is done in revdep-rebuild # Obey PORTAGE_NICENESS PORTAGE_NICENESS=$(portageq envvar PORTAGE_NICENESS) [ ! -z

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] emerge-webrsync patch

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Varner
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 17:38 +0100, Johannes Fahrenkrug wrote: Good point. Is this patch better? Or should it rather be _exactly_ as it is in revdep-rebuild? I personally would do it the same way as revdep-rebuild since that causes the entire script and anything it calls to be run at the value