On 21:22 Sun 08 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 23:35 Sun 08 Mar , Tiziano Müller wrote:
Well, the point I'm trying to make here is a different one: The syntax
you proposed is more to write but still equivalent to the one using
vars. And looking at the ebuilds - taking G2CONF as
This week's agenda:
On 19:19 Mon 02 Mar , Thomas Anderson wrote:
- GLEP 55
There had been quite a bit of discussion on this topic recently.
Within hours of the council meeting new proposals were being proposed
and discussion was ongoing.
Conclusion:
Le 09/03/2009 02:50, Donnie Berkholz a écrit :
On 14:09 Tue 03 Mar , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:13:34 Peter Volkov wrote:
Could you just use dosed here?
dosed needs to die.
Why?
Because it's utterly pointless and exists only for legacy reasons. Few
packages
Hi,
Tiziano Müller dev-z...@gentoo.org:
With eapis 1 and 2 we introduced nice features but also a couple of
new problems. One of them are the use dependencies when the package
you depend on doesn't have the use flag anymore (see [1] for an
example).
I don't know if there is a bug somewhere
2009/3/9 Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org:
I don't know if there is a bug somewhere (I did not find one), but
what about having the possibility to ask for one out many USE flags of
a dependency. For example app-misc/gramps needs dev-lang/python with
USE=berkdb or USE=sqlite, but
Hallo,
Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org:
On 23:35 Sun 08 Mar , Tiziano Müller wrote:
Well, the point I'm trying to make here is a different one: The
syntax you proposed is more to write but still equivalent to the
one using vars. And looking at the ebuilds - taking G2CONF as an
Hi,
Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com:
2009/3/9 Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org:
I don't know if there is a bug somewhere (I did not find one), but
what about having the possibility to ask for one out many USE flags
of a dependency. For example app-misc/gramps
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 21:22 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
I think the idea of ebuilds as scripts showing directly how to build
software is a core part of the Gentoo build-system philosophy. This
proposal pushes ebuilds toward a formatted file that is not a script.
Instead, it is more like
2009/3/9 Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org:
Hi,
Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com:
|| ( dev-lang/python[berkdb] dev-lang/python[sqlite] )
That's the solution currently and not the optimum.
I have discussed this yesterday with loki_val, and workaround would be
using a
Am Montag, den 09.03.2009, 10:06 +0100 schrieb Christian Faulhammer:
Hi,
Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielme...@googlemail.com:
2009/3/9 Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org:
I don't know if there is a bug somewhere (I did not find one), but
what about having the possibility to ask
Am Sonntag, den 08.03.2009, 23:31 -0700 schrieb Donnie Berkholz:
On 21:22 Sun 08 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 23:35 Sun 08 Mar , Tiziano Müller wrote:
Well, the point I'm trying to make here is a different one: The syntax
you proposed is more to write but still equivalent to
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Ali Polatel hawk...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hey everyone,
It's my turn to say goodbye.
It's been really nice for two years. I've had great fun and have no bad
feelings as I leave. This mail is meant as an apology to people who are
awaiting my return. I'm sorry to
Hello all,
Here are my comments, opinions, and a recommendation regarding GLEP
55 and similar proposals. I've put in 1) A) and a) numbering to
differentiate the various lists. Though perhaps long winded, at least
check out the Recommendation below.
The idea of sticking EAPI in metadata.xml was
Jacob Floyd techgurufloyd+gentoo.li...@gmail.com posted
4afbebfe0903090601r5759177bt98639c0c3a61b...@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
below, on Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:01:21 -0600:
Stick EAPI info in the Manifest. The Manifest stores metadata info about
the ebuilds for security and validation purposes,
Am Montag, den 09.03.2009, 10:12 +0100 schrieb Michael Haubenwallner:
On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 21:22 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
I think the idea of ebuilds as scripts showing directly how to build
software is a core part of the Gentoo build-system philosophy. This
proposal pushes
# Michael Sterrett mr_bon...@gentoo.org (09 Mar 2009)
# Masked for removal in 30 days.
# Needs removed version of dev-libs/libsigc++, broken autotools...
# Bug 215302 and bug 223771
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Hi,
this is just friendly reminder that we are updating cmake-utils.eclass [see
attached diff] to tree in few hours and it gives you new fancy functionality.
Everything is well eclassdoc documented so you can find out what the new
features are and how to use them.
Highlights are:
- more precise
I'm wondering what exactly is the harm in letting developers idle for a
while? While they might not be actively committing they are still
knowledgeable people that are just as capable as everyone else to push in a
fix for small packages. There's lots of bugs in bugzilla with items that
just need
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm wondering what exactly is the harm in letting developers idle for a
while? While they might not be actively committing they are still
knowledgeable people that are just as capable as everyone else to push in a
fix for
Duncan wrote:
So putting it in the manifest but generated from the ebuild info really
doesn't change the problem, leaving us precisely where we were before,
except that it may be useful as a component of one of the other
solutions, and has been proposed as such in a few of the suggested
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:49:16 +0100
Tiziano Müller dev-z...@gentoo.org wrote:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pPAJXP6shYH78lCXeqRqCUQ
Here're some more easy ones.
First up, un-optionaling some optional things. No impact for developers:
* PROPERTIES must be cached properly (it's optional
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
* Limit values in $USE to ones in $IUSE (bug 176467). The existing
behaviour's majorly annoying; time for the package manager to start
enforcing things strictly.
My impression is that most ebuild developers tend to
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:56:19 -0700
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
* Limit values in $USE to ones in $IUSE (bug 176467). The existing
behaviour's majorly annoying; time for the package manager
On Monday 09 of March 2009 22:36:33 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:33:11 +0100
Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com:
Next, some probably easy but long standing features:
* src_test run unless RESTRICTed or
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:20:03 +0100
Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Package A goes stable, test suite passes. Package B (a dependency of
A) goes stable in a newer version, which will cause A to not merge in
stable profile. This happens all the time and is no special case.
Uh, you
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:24:15 +0100
Maciej Mrozowski reave...@poczta.fm wrote:
Unfortunately upstream tends to think of tests in very relaxed way.
And for those upstreams that do, you RESTRICT=test, or better yet
filter out dodgy tests. Which is what you should be doing currently
anyway -- the
On 20:26 Mon 09 Mar , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 08:49:16 +0100
Tiziano Müller dev-z...@gentoo.org wrote:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pPAJXP6shYH78lCXeqRqCUQ
Here're some more easy ones.
This list sounds mostly good to me.
* Limit values in $USE to ones in
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:26:24 +
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
* src_test run unless RESTRICTed or explicitly disabled by the user
(bug 184812)
This one is not uncontroversial and will not go in a 'quick' EAPI I
think.
/loki_val
Tiziano � wrote:
Hi everyone
With eapis 1 and 2 we introduced nice features but also a couple of new
problems. One of them are the use dependencies when the package you
depend on doesn't have the use flag anymore (see [1] for an example).
So I think it's time for a short eapi bump with some
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:39:41 -0700
Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote:
* Calling unpack on an unrecognised extension should be fatal,
unless --if-compressed is specified. The default src_unpack needs
to use this.
Why?
Currently, if a package does an explicit 'unpack foo.bar',
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:38:51 -0500
Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote:
Should the next EAPI (as proposed) be a major release in terms of
naming?
We don't use major.minor numbers for EAPI or have a concept like that.
It's too much mess.
And should it really be adding features?
Well... So
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Jeremy Olexa wrote:
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm wondering what exactly is the harm in letting developers idle for a
while? While they might not be actively committing they are still
knowledgeable
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
As opposed to those same bugs being assigned to maintainer-needed and getting
lots of attention?
The inactive dev can just as easily resolve a m-needed bug as one that
is assigned to himself. The added benefit that some people actually look
at the m-needed
Hi,
Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:20:03 +0100
Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Package A goes stable, test suite passes. Package B (a dependency
of A) goes stable in a newer version, which will cause A to not
merge in stable profile.
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:44:55 -0500
Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm wondering what exactly is the harm in letting developers idle for
a while?
Nothing, as long as they don't pretend to be maintaining packages while
they idle. See compnerd and his tonne of system-packages for
On Monday, March 9, 2009 11:44:55 Doug Goldstein wrote:
I'm wondering what exactly is the harm in letting developers idle for a
while? While they might not be actively committing they are still
knowledgeable people that are just as capable as everyone else to push in a
fix for small packages.
Okay, let me explain in detail.
Undertakers contact devs who didn't touch CVS for at least two months,
are considered inactive in the bugzilla and have no current .away set.
After the initial contact, something like 3/4 of e-mailed people
respond very quickly and explain why they are gone
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:20:03 +0100
Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Package A goes stable, test suite passes. Package B (a dependency of
A) goes stable in a newer version, which will cause A to
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