Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-05 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, I wrote: Since most of the stuff in net-www seems to be browser plugins, we could create www-plugins. Is the following a reasonable scheme? net-www/adobesvg - www-plugins/adobesvg net-www/awstats - www-misc/awstats net-www/diamondx

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 18:49:50 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: + # killing these two on OSX/Intel will disable SSE, resulting in failing + # compilations, as the headers expect SSE to be enabled (Apple knows what + # hardware they run on afterall, don't they?) + [[ ${CHOST} ==

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: toolchain-funcs.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org posted 200904042353.30988.vap...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:53:29 -0400: +local sources=$@ this doesnt do what you think it does. it's the same as $* which means this function does not handle quoted arguments properly. ?? I'm

[gentoo-dev] Re: News item review: X.org server 1.5 stable (repost)

2009-04-05 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org: Repost of news item as I forgot to cc the PR project. Commit postponed by one day. Forgot to attach the actual news item. Gnah. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: toolchain-funcs.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 April 2009 03:49:52 Duncan wrote: Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org posted + local sources=$@ this doesnt do what you think it does. it's the same as $* which means this function does not handle quoted arguments properly. ?? I'm confused. Maybe you meant something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2 different ideas: 1. Do the main stuff in the package manager (e.g.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 April 2009 04:18:34 Thomas Sachau wrote: Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2 different

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: toolchain-funcs.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 23:53:29 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2009 13:17:56 Fabian Groffen (grobian) wrote: grobian 09/04/04 17:17:56 Modified: toolchain-funcs.eclass Log: Add support for all Prefix arches, in particular for gen_usr_ld_script, and add

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 10:18 +0200 schrieb Thomas Sachau: Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: toolchain-funcs.eclass

2009-04-05 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org posted 200904050401.19301.vap...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:01:18 -0400: what you've read/quoted matters at the expansion step, but that isnt what i'm talking about. i'm pointing out that the expansion is lost by assigning through the

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-05 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 05/04/2009 в 09:38 +0200, Ulrich Mueller пишет: Is the following a reasonable scheme? net-www/adobesvg - www-plugins/adobesvg This one probably should be removed from the tree: http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html net-www/gnash- www-plugins/gnash

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Thomas Sachau
Tiziano Müller schrieb: Am Sonntag, den 05.04.2009, 10:18 +0200 schrieb Thomas Sachau: Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within our tree and package managers. From what i know,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:07:37 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Tiziano Müller schrieb: With this, i would also like to see any changes that need an EAPI to get into EAPI-3. No. Won't happen. Can you also explain your statement? EAPI-3 is closed for new features. We want it

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-www category

2009-04-05 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote:   net-www/gnash                    - www-plugins/gnash Gnash is a GNU Flash movie player. May be media-video then? It's a browser plugin first, movie player second. Just like totem is a movie player first, browser plugin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:58:04 -0400 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: get a *working* implementation first and *then* worry about specing it. once you have something running with portage, the spec should fall naturally out. previous multilib methods attempted to spec things out without

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 05 April 2009 10:26:39 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:58:04 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: get a *working* implementation first and *then* worry about specing it. once you have something running with portage, the spec should fall naturally out. previous multilib

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Timothy Redaelli
On Saturday 04 April 2009 18:12:09 Thilo Bangert wrote: 'guess'. Like how you have to guess what use flags are really being used for the package in question, because it doesn't tell you? i'd like to ask the developers of package managers to standardize this. having packagmanager --info be

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-04-05 23h59 UTC

2009-04-05 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2009-04-05 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-emulation/vmware-esx-console2009-04-01 12:24:08 ikelos dev-haskell/hs-plugins 2009-04-05 17:07:51 kolmodin

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Timothy Redaelli wrote: On Saturday 04 April 2009 18:12:09 Thilo Bangert wrote: 'guess'. Like how you have to guess what use flags are really being used for the package in question, because it doesn't tell you? i'd like to ask the developers of package managers to standardize this.

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Andrew D Kirch wrote: I think it's best as a general rule to NEVER _EVER_ under any circumstances emulate paludis. While I'm not personally a fan of paludis, it doesn't help anyone to post crap like that to any mailing list. Please take it elsewhere. Thanks. -- Andrew Gaffney

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Andrew Gaffney wrote: Andrew D Kirch wrote: I think it's best as a general rule to NEVER _EVER_ under any circumstances emulate paludis. While I'm not personally a fan of paludis, it doesn't help anyone to post crap like that to any mailing list. Please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Andrew D Kirch trel...@trelane.net wrote: Why is it inappropriate to discuss the poor UI, and implementation of software we use especially in open source?  Maybe if we're closed to valid argument against poor methodology we can fail like everyone else who

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-05 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Andrew D Kirch trel...@trelane.net wrote: Why is it inappropriate to discuss the poor UI, and implementation of software we use especially in open source? Maybe if we're closed to valid argument against poor methodology we can fail