Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 20 October 2009 16:47:50 Jonathan Callen wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> The problem was that Gentoo's early amd64 implementation predated this > >> standardization, and we had chosen the other way. While we've defaulted > >> to lib64 for 64-bit libs for years, it has never been con

[gentoo-dev] Status of 10.0 profiles??

2009-10-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Hello, Since the "10.0 release" there has not been an outward facing announcement for users to switch profiles. * Are we deprecating the 2008.0 profiles? * Are 10.0 profiles "feature complete" ? * Will there be an announcement? * Why are only the 2008.0 hardened profiles deprecated? ( %% find /us

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Jonathan Callen
Mike Frysinger wrote: > if you read FHS you'll see that both implementations are allowed. Gentoo > isnt > violating anything here. wrt LSB, who knows. there are a ton of things we > dont follow with LSB. Actually, at first, FHS says that any /lib would be allowed, but it then goes into speci

[gentoo-dev] KDE Team Meeting - October 2009

2009-10-20 Thread Alex Alexander
Greetings, The KDE Team will have its usual monthly meeting this Thursday. Date: Thursday, 2009/10/22 Time: 1900 UTC Channel: #gentoo-meetings Late announcement, I know, but I guess better late than never :) Reply to this email with anything you'd like to have discussed at the meeting. Everyo

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 20 October 2009 09:06:29 Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > As I'm building the toolchain myself too, I configure it with the > 32bit host triplet on each platform, usually disabling multilib. this doesnt make any sense to me > This simply works for ppc-aix, hppa-hpux, ia64-hpux, sparc-sol

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 October 2009 16:59:55 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: > > the majority of the time, the compiler driver (i.e. `gcc`) should be used > > for linking. very few packages should invoke the linker directly. that > > is why currently the toolchain-func.eclass has tc-getLD re

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 20 October 2009 12:25:15 Duncan wrote: > Thomas Sachau posted on Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:29:25 +0200 as excerpted: > > Michael Haubenwallner schrieb: > >> Isn't the intention of multilib to have a new (64bit) system be > >> compatible with the corresponding old (32bit) system? > >> > >> Plea

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Duncan
Thomas Sachau posted on Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:29:25 +0200 as excerpted: > Michael Haubenwallner schrieb: >> Isn't the intention of multilib to have a new (64bit) system be >> compatible with the corresponding old (32bit) system? >> >> Please comment, thank you! >> /haubi/ > > If you have a 64bit s

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michael Haubenwallner schrieb: > Isn't the intention of multilib to have a new (64bit) system > be compatible with the corresponding old (32bit) system? > > Please comment, thank you! > /haubi/ If you have a 64bit system, the default should be 64bit, both for libs and for binaries. The additiona

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/20/2009 04:06 PM, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Isn't the intention of multilib to have a new (64bit) system be compatible with the corresponding old (32bit) system? I'm not sure I understand the whole procedure you use to build this app. Why not simply use -m32 when building it? Why b

[gentoo-dev] virtualx.eclass changes

2009-10-20 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Recently, virtualx.eclass changed how it adds dependencies. Previously, it always added IUSE=X, and added "X? ( x11-base/xorg-server x11-apps/xhost )" to both DEPEND and RDEPEND (the RDEPEND part appears to have been unintentional). This has been cha

[gentoo-dev] RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Hi devs, while there is the appreciated multiple ABI portage support going on, a thought on the intentions of the multilib profiles. Some background: I do have to support building an older, but still maintained large application software, that simply does not work when built as 64bit. As it does