[gentoo-dev] N00b question

2010-03-11 Thread Michele Noberasco
Hi,

sorry to post a very n00b question on the list, but since I haven't done that 
in... uh years... I cannot remember the procedure to follow for masking a 
package for automated removal from the tree. Can someone give me a heads up or 
point me to the relevant documentation?

Thanks,
Michele Noberasco



Re: [gentoo-dev] N00b question

2010-03-11 Thread Ben de Groot
On 11 March 2010 10:01, Michele Noberasco s4...@gentoo.org wrote:
 sorry to post a very n00b question on the list, but since I haven't done that 
 in... uh years... I cannot remember the procedure to follow for masking a 
 package for automated removal from the tree. Can someone give me a heads up 
 or point me to the relevant documentation?


See http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/ and the policy doc
referred to on that page.

Cheers,
-- 
Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] N00b question

2010-03-11 Thread Michele Noberasco
Il giorno 11/mar/2010, alle ore 12.35, Ben de Groot ha scritto:

 On 11 March 2010 10:01, Michele Noberasco s4...@gentoo.org wrote:
 sorry to post a very n00b question on the list, but since I haven't done 
 that in... uh years... I cannot remember the procedure to follow for masking 
 a package for automated removal from the tree. Can someone give me a heads 
 up or point me to the relevant documentation?
 
 See http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/ and the policy doc
 referred to on that page.
Thanks, this helped.

Regards,
Michele




Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-03-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 11 March 2010 00:10:00 Jeroen Roovers wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:42:43 + (UTC) Duncan wrote:
  So a gmail account is now considered mandatory for Gentoo devs, at
  least if they want calendar access?
  
  What about those who might think that Google knows enough about them
  with search and the web crawling and database correlation Google
  does, and whatever ad serving might leak thru, and object to having a
  gmail account on principle?
 
 That's OK. I'm a Gentoo dev and I won't be subscribing. Fair enough?

you dont need an account to subscribe (read/track updates).  anyone can do 
that anonymously.
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-11 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Jacob Godserv jacobgods...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem here, I think, is everyone has their opinion about what it
 means for something to go stable, and I haven't seen more than one or
 two references to what has been predetermined as policy for
 stabilization. I think we should do a little less debating over
 personal opinions (which is a hot topic, apparently) and more about
 how Gentoo guidelines determine what can go stable. If the guidelines
 don't cover this, then they ought to be fixed.

The opinions of most of the people in this thread are not directly
relevant anyway.  The maintainer gets to decide when to file a
stablereq bug for their package and the arch teams to get to decide
whether to mark something stable on their arch or not.  So someone
just make a decision and move forward; we will never reach consensus
here (and we should not be trying to reach one anyway.)

-A


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    from the beginning of the world until now — and never
    to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut
    short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the
    elect those days will be shortened.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Split desktop profile patches news item for review

2010-03-11 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 02:36 +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
 On 8 March 2010 02:17, Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote:
 
  I attached the news item, please review. Meanwhile, I'll create docs 
  patches.
 
  Also, I'm CCing hardened as my No.1 question was not answered. Please do.
  Thanks
 
 Seeing as there were no further comments, I think we are good to go!

I suggest reading my comments...

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Gentoo Developer
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-03-11 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Thursday 11 March 2010 00:10:00 Jeroen Roovers wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:42:43 + (UTC) Duncan wrote:
  So a gmail account is now considered mandatory for Gentoo devs, at
  least if they want calendar access?
 
  What about those who might think that Google knows enough about them
  with search and the web crawling and database correlation Google
  does, and whatever ad serving might leak thru, and object to having a
  gmail account on principle?

 That's OK. I'm a Gentoo dev and I won't be subscribing. Fair enough?

 you dont need an account to subscribe (read/track updates).  anyone can do
 that anonymously.
 -mike


I think Duncan's point is that in the Social Contract it talks about
how Gentoo should only rely on open source software.  The question is
does this apply to our 'product' or does it apply to everything.
Certainly users can continue to use Gentoo without using this calendar
at all; however if it becomes some kind of integral part of Gentoo
(which I doubt it will) we will have to look at switching to something
else (which is easy given the many export formats of Google Calendar
:))

I am all about trying out new things and working out the details after
the fact;so +1 to the calendar as well.

-A



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Split desktop profile patches news item for review

2010-03-11 Thread Ben de Groot
On 11 March 2010 21:20, Mart Raudsepp l...@gentoo.org wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 02:36 +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
 Seeing as there were no further comments, I think we are good to go!

 I suggest reading my comments...

Unless I missed something, you didn't make any comments on this
thread.

If you mean the thread you started that tangentially took off from this
one, about eselect profile improvements: I support that proposal,
but it will take some time to get implemented. Is anyone already
working on that?

In the meantime I see no reason for that to halt or postpone the
current desktop profile improvements as prepared by Theo.

Cheers,
-- 
Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-03-11 Thread Richard Freeman

On 03/11/2010 03:53 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
 however if it becomes some kind of integral part of Gentoo

(which I doubt it will) we will have to look at switching to something
else (which is easy given the many export formats of Google Calendar
:))


I think you hit the nail on the head.  Right now it isn't really getting 
used at all, and as you pointed out we can always transition it later.


Before we build out an uber-calendaring-application maybe we should just 
let the current calendar get some use, and then we can see how it goes. 
 Plus, our experiences with Google Calendar may come in handy when 
defining requirements for a pure-FOSS solution.


Of course, if somebody wants to setup something that is FOSS anyway, 
nobody is going to stop them.


Rich



[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo calendar for tracking Gentoo events

2010-03-11 Thread Duncan
Alec Warner posted on Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:53:14 -0800 as excerpted:

 you dont need an account to subscribe (read/track updates).  anyone
 can do that anonymously.
 -mike

Thanks.  That wasn't clear from the original.  Good to make it explicit 
(as you have now several times). =:^)

 I think Duncan's point is that in the Social Contract it talks about how
 Gentoo should only rely on open source software.

Well, that, and the simple assumption that every dev had no objection to a 
gmail account.  If the point had been made then (as made now) that read-
only is available without, and that those without (thereby recognizing the 
possibility) could ask another dev...  But that was taken care of with my 
original post and other followups, so it's pretty much resolved.

 The question is does
 this apply to our 'product' or does it apply to everything. Certainly
 users can continue to use Gentoo without using this calendar at all;
 however if it becomes some kind of integral part of Gentoo (which I
 doubt it will) we will have to look at switching to something else
 (which is easy given the many export formats of Google Calendar :))
 
 I am all about trying out new things and working out the details after
 the fact;so +1 to the calendar as well.

A reasonable enough way to proceed, yes. =:^)

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and if you use the program, he is your master.  Richard Stallman