[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2010-03-28 23h59 UTC

2010-03-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2010-03-28 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-misc/chesstask 2010-03-22 01:47:49 yngwin app-office/indeview 2010-03-22 01:48:51 yngwin dev-db/qt-unixODBC

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:09:07 -0700 Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:07:52PM +0200, Rennn 'Necoro' Neumann wrote: > > Am 28.03.2010 21:04, schrieb Brian Harring: > > > Instead, if the purpose is a "thanks", why not every once in a while > > > put up a news item discussing the too

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-28 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 07:31:10PM +1300, Alistair Bush wrote: > > On Saturday 27 of March 2010 21:58:41 William Hubbs wrote: > > > > It's really freaking silly to wait months for stabilization of some random > > php/perl library that's known to work. > > Have you ever just considered closing the

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:07:52PM +0200, Rennn 'Necoro' Neumann wrote: > Am 28.03.2010 21:04, schrieb Brian Harring: > > Instead, if the purpose is a "thanks", why not every once in a while > > put up a news item discussing the tools in question? Such an > > approach allows folk to focus in on

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 28.03.2010 21:04, schrieb Brian Harring: > Instead, if the purpose is a "thanks", why not every once in a while > put up a news item discussing the tools in question? Such an > approach allows folk to focus in on whatever is useful/interesting >

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Brian Harring
Skip to the end for a counterproposal... On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 05:13:14PM +1300, Alistair Bush wrote: > I was just thinking how nice it could be if we acknowledged some of the > projects that contribute to gentoo but are actually developed primarily > outside of gentoo's dev community. How ab

Re: [gentoo-dev] when to use a function and an implementation use flag.

2010-03-28 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: >> On 03/24/2010 08:30 PM, Peter Hjalmarsson wrote: >> >>> For qemu-kvm the problem is that there is only one implementation (i.e. >>> gnutls), and if I want to have ssl support I have t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
> > Yes. Paludis is Exherbo's package manager. > FWIW, I categorized that as "Gentoo based"... tho how much it has expanded > beyond that by now isn't something I'd know without being told... It has never been Gentoo-based, Duncan. You might perceive it like that because Gentoo has often embraced

[gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Duncan
Wulf C. Krueger posted on Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:55:12 +0200 as excerpted: >> And paludis and friends, while being designed for more independent use >> (much like openrc), again, is it (are they) actually part of any non- >> Gentoo-based distribution? > > Yes. Paludis is Exherbo's package manager.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-28 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Sunday 28 of March 2010 09:39:18 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > It's really freaking silly to wait months for stabilization of some > > random php/perl library that's known to work. > How do you know it works if you don't test on the arch in question? The problem is not waiting for some to go st

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
> And paludis and friends, while being designed for more independent use > (much like openrc), again, is it (are they) actually part of any non- > Gentoo-based distribution? Yes. Paludis is Exherbo's package manager. Best regards, Wulf signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed messa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Richard Freeman
On 03/28/2010 10:27 AM, Duncan wrote: The point being, perhaps I'm wrong and openrc does have a broader distribution basis than I'm aware of, but in practice, it seems all of these tend to be used /almost/ exclusively with Gentoo and Gentoo based distributions. If openrc's usage is rather wider

[gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Duncan
Alistair Bush posted on Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:21:23 +1300 as excerpted: >> So you mention openrc, but don't have it on the list? >> >> > Yes because openrc isn't really gentoo-specific. I don't want the list > blowing out to include ever package in the entire tree. ie. Thanking > gcc for cont

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-28 Thread Richard Freeman
On 03/28/2010 06:04 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Basically you are saying that NONE tested that package on the arch until the stablerequest. That's quite wrong and it should mean that the arch should be ~ only, since they are stabling packages that they first tested the day they stable them. Well

Re: usemove [was Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: changing ssl use flag descriptions and unify behaviour]

2010-03-28 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/28/2010 09:27 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:03:43AM -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: >> I seriously hate changing USE flags for the sake of changing use >> flags. This provides a moderate amount of annoyance for anyone that >> maintains more then one Gentoo box because the

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 28.03.2010 10:30, schrieb Luis Francisco Araujo: > himerge Hey :P - you are a gentoo dev :P I think probably most of the app-portage category falls in here (as portage is the only "gentoo-specific" thing one can develop stuff for): eix, etc-propo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Alistair Bush
> > So you mention openrc, but don't have it on the list? > Yes because openrc isn't really gentoo-specific. I don't want the list blowing out to include ever package in the entire tree. ie. Thanking gcc for contributing to gentoo. Note this doesn't mean that openrc won't be on the list.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-28 Thread Duncan
Brian Harring posted on Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:34:43 -0700 as excerpted: > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 07:31:10PM +1300, Alistair Bush wrote: >> > On Saturday 27 of March 2010 21:58:41 William Hubbs wrote: >> > >> > It's really freaking silly to wait months for stabilization of some >> > random php/perl

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-28 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dne 28.3.2010 09:39, Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:47:27 +0200 > Maciej Mrozowski wrote: >> No, seriously - given the fact that some of my packages were even >> stabilized without contacting me (app-misc/hal-cups-utils, >> app-ad

[gentoo-dev] Re: List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Duncan
Alistair Bush posted on Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:13:14 +1300 as excerpted: > I was just thinking how nice it could be if we acknowledged some of the > projects that contribute to gentoo but are actually developed primarily > outside of gentoo's dev community. How about a page on gentoo.org > > So let

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] List of User projects

2010-03-28 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
Alistair Bush wrote: > I was just thinking how nice it could be if we acknowledged some of the > projects that contribute to gentoo but are actually developed primarily > outside of gentoo's dev community. How about a page on gentoo.org > > So lets me start with a couple of obvious ones. > > k

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reworking package stabilization policies

2010-03-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:47:27 +0200 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > No, seriously - given the fact that some of my packages were even > stabilized without contacting me (app-misc/hal-cups-utils, > app-admin/system-config- printer-common) - I think it should be: Well you'd marked them "~arch", right? Tha