About teams having inactive people (Was:Re: [gentoo-dev] font.eclass add Xorg FontPath elements for non-standard paths)

2013-07-03 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 04-07-2013 a las 01:07 +0200, Michael Weber escribió: [...] > I contacted fonts alias and, as mentioned on the bug and irc, Ben de > Groot (yngwin) does not object and says that font team lead Peter > Volkov (pva) is non-active. Why fonts team doesn't elect a new lead then? Thanks for the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Steven J. Long
Walter Dnes wrote: > Tom Wijsman wrote > > With USE=-experimental (which will be the default) they are excluded by > > default, after enabling that the user can exclude patches by setting > > UNIPATCH_EXCLUDE through the package.env mechanism. > > Assume that there are 50 different patches avail

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Steven J. Long
Tom Wijsman wrote: > "Steven J. Long" wrote: > > If it does [affect the build by default] then it should never be > > applied, unless the user specifically asks for it, imo, and the > > resultant kernel is labelled -exp as you suggest. > > Yes, we are going to introduce an experimental USE flag fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 02:42:56PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote > With USE=-experimental (which will be the default) they are excluded by > default, after enabling that the user can exclude patches by setting > UNIPATCH_EXCLUDE through the package.env mechanism. Here's my user, not-a-developer, per

[gentoo-dev] font.eclass add Xorg FontPath elements for non-standard paths

2013-07-03 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello, as Ondrej Grover pointed out on [1], the font.eclass installs font files and indexes (font.dir, fonts.scale) into sub-dirs of /usr/share/fonts/, e.g. /usr/share/fonts/terminus. These directories are naturally not in the fontpath of Xorg serv

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
Oh, so It has nothing to do with upgrade path. My apologies -- Sergei signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:52:37 +0300 Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:06:07 +0200 > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:16:07 +0300 > > Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > > > > > udev's case: > > > It's _not_ the kernel which upgrade breaks user's system. Why do > > > you tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:06:07 +0200 Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:16:07 +0300 > Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > > > udev's case: > > It's _not_ the kernel which upgrade breaks user's system. Why do you > > try to "fix" it? If you want to save user's box - make check at > > pre-install ti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 21:16:07 +0300 Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > udev's case: > It's _not_ the kernel which upgrade breaks user's system. Why do you > try to "fix" it? If you want to save user's box - make check at > pre-install time. Otherwise it will break. Won't work for stage3's case, where thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:45:55 +0100 "Steven J. Long" wrote: > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > > Earlier I mentioned "3) The patch should not affect the build by > > > > default."; if it does, we have to adjust it to not do that, > > > > this is something that can be easily scripted. > > If it does then

[gentoo-dev] Re: gentoo-checkconf script Re: Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Steven J. Long
Michael Weber wrote: > Anthony G. Basile wrote: > > Now I'm confused because gentoo-sources is gentoo specific. It > > contains stuff that we need in gentoo but other distros do not > > need, like our end-to-end support for certain xattr namespaces. If > > you remove these then we must either 1)

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-03 Thread Steven J. Long
Tom Wijsman wrote: > Greg KH wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 09:25:42PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 14:09:57 -0500 > > > Matthew Summers wrote: > > > > If the patchset patches the kernel's core, it doesn't matter what > > > > CONFIG_* option is set the core kernel cod