Re: [gentoo-dev] Choosing GUI toolkits from multiple choices

2016-06-04 Thread Mart Raudsepp
> I drafted that mentioned USE_EXPAND idea as a means to get some > 'design from the scratch' discussion going and flesh out this way of > potentially doing it (such a USE_EXPAND was idly mentioned at start > by > others as something that was deemed too crazy, but I didn't find any > references). I

[gentoo-dev] Choosing GUI toolkits from multiple choices

2016-06-04 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, R, 03.06.2016 kell 22:40, kirjutas Daniel Campbell: > You touched on the part that I'm most concerned about: choosing. If > the > 'GUI' USE_EXPAND gets in, do we maintainers check that variable and > if > there's no preference just build whatever? Will we not be expected to > emi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-04 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, R, 03.06.2016 kell 22:40, kirjutas Daniel Campbell: > You touched on the part that I'm most concerned about: choosing. If > the > 'GUI' USE_EXPAND gets in, do we maintainers check that variable and > if > there's no preference just build whatever? As I don't want this thread to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

2016-06-04 Thread NP-Hardass
On 06/02/2016 05:21 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Michał Górny wrote: We understand that some people have goals like 'I want Qt everywhere, I hate GTK+ so much I'd rather not be able to do anything than have GTK+ on my system'. We respect them. But we're no longer goi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 21:17, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > We've still got 5.x stable, but that's because there's a security bug > for PHP every 20 days and it takes 30 days to stabilize an ebuild. > > Here's a status report: > > * We've got the "eselect php..." stuff sorted out already so you can > easil

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 04:03 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> > LOL - that still happens?! > Yeah, at least in the U.S. There was a "PHP 6", but everything went so wrong that they decided to just pretend that the number 6 doesn't exist. > I still see php5 installed as stable everywhere .. so perhaps php7 sti

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 20:59, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 03:50 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> What's the migration path/timeline look like .. I'da thought it would be >> months/years to move everything that's centred on php5 up to php7 if >> that's the way things are going. What happened to php6 ?!?

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Kristian Fiskerstrand schrieb: Personally I'da thought an ewarning would be sufficient based on the old flag, and perhaps a news item if considered important enough?! as long as it is sufficient time and it notifies ahead of time, and the new use flag can be added to package.use immediately, i

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 03:50 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > What's the migration path/timeline look like .. I'da thought it would be > months/years to move everything that's centred on php5 up to php7 if > that's the way things are going. What happened to php6 ?!? v5 and v7 are mostly compatible, and the few b

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 06/04/2016 09:53 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 03:45 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> >> would a REQUIRED_USE in newer versions make sense to force the new use >> flag for people upgrading as a deprecation period? >> > > You mean like requiring USE=webp (new) if the user has US

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 06/04/2016 09:50 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 04/06/16 20:45, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> would a REQUIRED_USE in newer versions make sense to force the new use >> flag for people upgrading as a deprecation period? >> > What's the migration path/timeline look like .. I'da thought it would b

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 03:45 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > would a REQUIRED_USE in newer versions make sense to force the new use > flag for people upgrading as a deprecation period? > You mean like requiring USE=webp (new) if the user has USE=vpx (old)? Sounds like a good idea. It's been totally

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 20:45, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > would a REQUIRED_USE in newer versions make sense to force the new use > flag for people upgrading as a deprecation period? > What's the migration path/timeline look like .. I'da thought it would be months/years to move everything that's centred on

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 06/04/2016 09:45 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 06/04/2016 09:39 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 06/04/2016 03:30 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >>> The existing use description might be considered slightly confusing, >>> potentially .. >>> >> >> I changed them to, >> >> Enable webp support

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 06/04/2016 09:39 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 03:30 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> The existing use description might be considered slightly confusing, >> potentially .. >> > > I changed them to, > > Enable webp support for GD in php-5.x > Enable webp support for GD in php-7.x

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 20:39, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 03:30 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> The existing use description might be considered slightly confusing, >> potentially .. >> > I changed them to, > > Enable webp support for GD in php-5.x > Enable webp support for GD in php-7.x > > Ok so

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 03:30 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > The existing use description might be considered slightly confusing, > potentially .. > I changed them to, Enable webp support for GD in php-5.x Enable webp support for GD in php-7.x

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 04/06/16 18:14, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 06/04/2016 12:29 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: >> dev-lang/php:vpx - Enable webp suppoprt for GD >> >> ?!?!?!?! Is that a typo? >> > Half and half. The "suppoprt" is obviously a typo, but unfortunately, > PHP uses a bundled copy of GD, so that isn

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/04/2016 12:29 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > dev-lang/php:vpx - Enable webp suppoprt for GD > > ?!?!?!?! Is that a typo? > Half and half. The "suppoprt" is obviously a typo, but unfortunately, PHP uses a bundled copy of GD, so that isn't. ...and there's more. In php-7.x, they've d

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 06/04/2016 09:29 AM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 12:45:15PM +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguy???n wrote >> Suggested description: Add support for the WebP image format >> Currently in use by the following packages: > > Out of sheer curiousity... > > grep -i -w webp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread waltdnes
On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 12:45:15PM +0200, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguy???n wrote > Suggested description: Add support for the WebP image format > Currently in use by the following packages: Out of sheer curiousity... grep -i -w webp /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc ...returns the same list *

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Raymond Jennings
+2 I don't know how many packages that is but it's WAY over the minimum of 5 advised in the dev handbook On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 3:55 AM, Davide Pesavento wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn > wrote: > > Suggested description: Add support for the WebP image fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Suggested description: Add support for the WebP image format > Currently in use by the following packages: > > app-text/tesseract:webp - Enable support for webp image format. > dev-games/aseprite:webp - Enable webp image format

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] New global USE flag: webp

2016-06-04 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Suggested description: Add support for the WebP image format Currently in use by the following packages: app-text/tesseract:webp - Enable support for webp image format. dev-games/aseprite:webp - Enable webp image format support dev-libs/DirectFB:webp - build WebP image provider dev-libs/efl:webp