.
And as a result, we can unmask the newest version of smplayer, which
can now function as a GUI frontend for mpv as well.
I would say this is an overall improvement for our end-users. I don't
want to get into the politics of it, but just look at it from a
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a poll to the forum
to ask them about their preference.
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1010096.html
They seem pretty strongly in favour of changing the default back to ffmpeg:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1010096-postdays-0-postorder-asc-vote-viewresult.html
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:
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FFmpeg-versus-Libav
Based on that I would say we should switch back the default to ffmpeg.
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On 4 February 2015 at 17:55, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-02-04, o godz. 17:24:03
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
From an upstream that I care about:
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/FFmpeg-versus-Libav
Based on that I would say we should switch back
on
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be properly handled. And bugs can be properly handled, etc etc.
-Ben
the repositories. What
are the plans for returning that service?
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/mpv
media-video/vlc
virtual/ffmpeg
www-plugins/gnash
Descriptions for that flag are pretty the same and we already have
'vdpau' USE flag, which is for someway similar technology.
So, how about making this flag global too?
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On 8 November 2014 19:15, Jauhien Piatlicki jauh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hi Ben,
Have you read comments on Qt overlay commit? Have you check reverse
dependencies of packages you are masking? razorqt-base/libqtxdg is used by
LXQt. So, please, unmask it. I will move it into lxqt-base category
# Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org (7 Nov 2014)
# Unmaintained, no longer supported, and starting to throw compilation
# errors (bug #513906, bug #528372). Masked for removal in 30 days.
# Update to lxqt-base/* packages.
razorqt-base/libqtxdg
razorqt-base/razorqt-appswitcher
razorqt-base/razorqt
is available through busybox already
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'.' there?
I completely support this argument. The warning is correct and should
remain in place.
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respectively) or by slotting?
What's your opinion on this?
The Qt team has always recommended the useflag method for packages
that support more than one major version of Qt. This is also what we
implement ourselves. So for consistency's sake, please stick with the
useflags.
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it is to everyone else.
No offense intended.
-Ben
, exit, give it to the
genkernel maintainer and we're done.
-Ben Kohler
of separately packaging the kernel configs.
-Ben
. Obviously,
if upstream does not ship a .pc file or ships a broken one, we try
to work with upstream to get it fixed on their end. If they are
uncooperative, we fix it on our end.
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as maintainer for these last three packages, if
anyone is willing to take over.
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On 1 April 2014 21:58, Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 13:13 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote:
On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hello, all.
The late multilib ppc issues made me re-check our stable masks on
abi_x86_* flags
On 2 April 2014 07:38, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 04/01/2014 01:13 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hello, all.
The late multilib ppc issues made me re-check our stable masks on
abi_x86_* flags and, honestly, I'm not sure
implementation to an overlay for the few people who would actually
benefit from it.
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different preferences.
That said, I'm not sure we absolutely need a policy. Though I would
agree it would be more elegant if we can solve this matter, to make it
easier to grasp by our users. In that case the QA proposal makes sense
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at
thirdpartymirrors/mirrorname.
-Ben
its own file, one server per line, with comments, etc...
will be a huge help in using and maintaining these groups.
-Ben
that you think Gentoo has stopped.
You have some great ideas but this is not a sinking ship scenario.
-Ben
or in maillists.
Define very long time?
//Peter
If you have some reason we should be sticking to vixie-cron, please stop
being so mysterious and share it with the rest of us.
Thanks!
-Ben
in whatever direction even though they have
nearly zero detailed understanding of the options they are choosing
between.
Suggesting cronie in the handbook seems like a no-brainer. Do you have
some information on vixie-cron that we're all missing?
-Ben
to warn veteran
haven't used the handbook in years people.
-Ben
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On 14 November 2013 20:32, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 14 November 2013 13:13, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
And how is it possible to discuss anything properly in Gentoo?
That's because we have
On 14 November 2013 23:12, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I said
As it is always happy to point out, Council doesn't see itself as
leadership, just as a supreme court of appeal, when everything else
seems to have
On 15 November 2013 01:32, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
I was particularly hit by this as maintainer of freetype, see bugs
455070 and 459352 for some of the mess that could have been avoided.
Looks like 455070
/ versions we don't support, they are on their own.
That said, we can do it as a courtesy to users, when it is brought
to our attention. But it's more of an enhancement than a bug,
in my opinion.
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and it's implications between that and just -uD
the difference is -N, it's in man emerge
We really should change this recommendation to --changed-use instead of -N.
But we also need a short option for that.
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I don't see a compelling case being made for why we should make this
change apart from all the other distros are doing it, and quite a
few reasons why we shouldn't. I'm open to being convinced, so please
tell me why this is good for Gentoo users.
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for
eclass versioning. But that would deserve it's own separate thread.
As for naming, I recommend you do a +1 to avoid confusion, so
git-3.eclass, or git-r3.eclass. Again, here it would be good to agree
on a convention for everyone to follow.
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On 22 August 2013 18:01, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 22 August 2013 01:19, Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org
wrote
and ppc64 to that list.
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So let's get a proper spec and documentation! Because sets can be
very useful, as I'm sure everyone will agree.
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related packages,
and refuse stable keywords for GUI toolkits and their desktop reverse
dependencies and the like.
Ago is doing a fantastic job, but it would be good to lower his
work-load and reduce the bus factor problem.
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it on an x86 server as well, so I get to do it twice; I can't
even copy/paste the list.
Yes you can. Just leave out the actual keyword. It will assume ~arch.
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-themes:gtk3 - Support GTK 3.x, too
x11-wm/fvwm:gtk2-perl - Enable GTK2 Perl bindings
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As mentioned on IRC, there's this:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gnome_Team_Policies#gtk3
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be interested in such a project.
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.
People are running gnome-3.8 and systemd today, on gentoo. It's working
great for tons of people out there. We're supporting it in #gentoo and on
the forums today, with much success. If you (people out there, not you
Tom) don't realize that yet, please pull your head out of the sand.
-Ben
people oppose systemd. It doesn't help to
keep so aggressively pushing it.
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-candy as well.
I raise the freedom of choice card here. And deliberately choosing an
uncooperative version doesn't shine a good light.
People are free to use a saner desktop environment...
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this, rather than abusing keywords.
-Ben
, I had also suggested
gentoo-networking.
How about gen-net? It's nice, short and the name is more flexible if
the pkg is picked up by other distros (something bantied about during
previous discussions).
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/Gentoo-sources/gentoo-sources/
supported version for Gentoo users.
s/\. /. /g
(or vice versa)
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.
-Ben
with the
number of installed fonts, and that adding your own fontpath entries is both
trivial and documented everywhere.
We should probably add this to our documentation, and link to that
from a post-install message (using readme.gentoo.eclass).
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in the menuconfig, we can provide options that enable minimal Gentoo
requirements by default (DEVTMPFS, making Gentoo systems bootable since
an udev release a long time ago) and other distribution stuff.
Sounds like a great idea to me!
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On 26 May 2013 02:13, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
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But if a co-maintainer pushes through a change that I oppose, then
working together becomes quite difficult. In this case I opted
that systemd is a bad
implementation of a bad idea, and to boycott it distro-wide.
But you know what they say about common sense...
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On 26 May 2013 00:48, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2013 00:14:36 +0800
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
Unless I am mistaken, we did NOT agree anywhere that Gentoo
maintainers MUST add systemd support when upstream does not ship such
files.
We did agree
On 26 May 2013 15:37, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2013 00:14:36 +0800
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
Systemd is diametrically opposed to the FreeBSD, customization,
extreme configurability, and top-notch developer community aspects of
that. Systemd upstream
On 26 May 2013 18:04, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2013 15:23:44 +0800
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
Where is this policy documented?
Nowhere, I think. I've seen it coming in the late
.
At least not until we get eselect init sorted out... :)
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not a sarcastic question). I hope that everybody does their own
reality check.
We say that Gentoo stands for choice. That is why we should resist
allowing systemd (and Gnome) to take those choices away with their
mistaken idea of vertical integration. We do have other options.
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discussed the move with them already and that any concerns of theirs
were understood.
//Peter
Just push to two remotes, like we have been doing for the qt overlay.
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users would need them anyway. I
would think it is better to add them to a separate systemd-units
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On 8 May 2013 23:39, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 1 May 2013 18:04, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote:
It looks like there is some consensus on the effort of making systemd
more accessible, while
On 8 May 2013 23:49, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
chith...@gentoo.org wrote:
Ben de Groot schrieb:
On 1 May 2013 18:04, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote:
It looks like there is some consensus on the effort of making
is a mistake in release code,
but was accepted practice. I've almost never actively removed it from
packages I maintain. That will change now, upon learning of this policy.
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On 3 May 2013 16:36, Kacper Kowalik xarthis...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 03.05.2013 10:06, Ben de Groot wrote:
On 3 May 2013 12:09, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
Most of the bugs filed on the gcc 4.8 tracker so far have been caused by
packages being built with -Werror. I just noticed one
On 22 April 2013 21:51, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:21:55 +0800
Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
It should come as no surprise that I am not happy with this. While I
applaud your efforts to attempt to improve the multilib situation, I
don't think
On 6 Apr, 2013 4:46 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
libpng 1.6 is in portage, but temporarily without KEYWORDS, pending on
testign and this conversion, help would be much appericiated with
converting the tree to use automatic rebuilds for the upgrade
Because there is
more precise descriptions
for all categories.
So please come with some suggestions to get the ball rolling!
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sick of
hearing about it, I'll stop following the thread.
-Ben
/treeclean.txt
It needs some work, and guidexmlification. However, I tried to
hit some of the alternatives.
I don't think we need to create a new page for that. Just put all this
text into the treecleaners page.
I suggest putting it in the wiki instead.
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paragraph because I definitely agree with
everything else you said.
-Ben
, or as-needed based on new
features that show up.
-Ben
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Alexander Berntsen alexan...@plaimi.netwrote:
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I really feel like we should still have an official minimal iso
Feelings do not matter.
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As a very active
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I really feel like we should still have an official minimal iso
Feelings do not matter.
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Just to add a bit
browser for documentation), and our DVD too heavy. SystemRescueCD
seems to hit the sweet spot.
Maybe we could do a co-branded edition once in a while?
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tree-cleaning. Users who want to keep
this in portage need to step up for proxy-maintainership and address
the open bugs.
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with adding new category?
I don't see why not.
2) How should we call it: app-leechcraft, leechcraft-base or anything else?
Yes, something like that.
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On 2 March 2013 15:57, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote:
On 02/03/2013 07:54, Ben de Groot wrote:
1. Get Qt5 ready for inclusion in the tree. This includes writing and
improving ebuilds and eclasses, testing to build those, filing bug reports
on failure, finding fixes for those
On 2 March 2013 20:26, Jauhien Piatlicki jpiatli...@gmail.com wrote:
02.03.13 07:54, Ben de Groot написав(ла):
app-admin/keepassx
app-text/goldendict
If these two packages need a maintainer, I could proxy-maintain them.
I'm not a developer, but I have some experience with ebuild writing
On 2 March 2013 20:33, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 02/03/13 08:54, Ben de Groot wrote:
The Gentoo Qt Project wants your help!
sci-calculators/qalculator
This project died after the first betas. I propose treecleaning it. We have
plenty of more maintained calculators
don't have the time to maintain this. Thanks for
stepping up.
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-misc/qps
x11-misc/qsynergy
x11-misc/tinymount
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)
There are also commands like eix --installed-from-overlay to see at a
glance what questionable packages may be in play. Clearly we have a dev or
2 with some overlay hate, but I don't really think that's relevant to this
project discussion. It certainly shouldn't be a show stopper.
-Ben
these packages. We're just facilitating them with a more
centralized solution for this, as there is obvious demand for it.
Plus, this may be a stepping stone for users fixing those packages and
taking up proxy-maintainership.
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is specifically for Qt3/KDE3.
But I guess we could consider merging kde-sunset with graveyard.
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. There is no
reason to keep this scattered over multiple locations.
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volunteering some time to keep this running
2. Agreement on a place to host tarballs no longer hosted upstream
People who are interested can contact me in the #gentoo-dev-help
channel on Freenode.
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and keep
those packages in the main tree.
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, but
otherwise nothing changes.
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Looks good to me!
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effort.
Ulrich
[1] http://www.spdx.org/licenses/
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the same header consistency check as autotools-multilib
(therefore, I move the function to multilib-build).
I'm attaching an ebuild for virtualgl as an example of use.
I see no attachments...
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On 7 February 2013 16:36, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 6 February 2013 04:19, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
The idea is the same as in autotools-multilib. The eclass
is a straightfoward wrapper for cmake-utils which inherits
multilib-build and runs cmake phase functions
patch attached
This will add an option to disabling autoformatting to let people get
their doc_contents 100% respected if they want
How about using an as-is argument to readme.gentoo_create_doc?
That would be more concise. :-)
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On 30 January 2013 05:47, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
El mar, 29-01-2013 a las 14:03 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
On 29 January 2013 03:30, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
El lun, 28-01-2013 a las 14:37 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
I've started using this eclass
On 29 January 2013 03:30, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
El lun, 28-01-2013 a las 14:37 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
I've started using this eclass, but with README files, not the variable,
because this is currently the only way I can make sure it honours my
formatting.
Couldn't
I've started using this eclass, but with README files, not the variable,
because this is currently the only way I can make sure it honours my
formatting.
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