Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Jon Portnoy
if we wanted to be really stupid, or we could just admit that we don't have to make a bunch of anal terminology nerds happy and continue on using sane naming -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-06 Thread Jon Portnoy
? There are obviously reasons, as you're a very talented person spending quite a bit of time on the project, but equally obviously, I'm not familiar enough with them to make a good G/FBSD representative, at this point. I'll probably be using it sometime soon because ports is archaic at best -- Jon

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-03 Thread Jon Portnoy
before handling this particular incident. I don't think it's so unreasonable to have backup plans for preserving Gentoo when devrel cannot respond in a timely manner -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-03 Thread Jon Portnoy
everyone wants to replace? I agree some of the wording should be altered, but I do think it's sensible for infra to cover when devrel falls on its rear. -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-03 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 02:10:20AM +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: Jon Portnoy wrote: On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 01:40:59AM +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: This is how it has been handled so far except in the ciaranm incident. This is how I personally think this should be handled in future

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-03 Thread Jon Portnoy
-- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-03 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 09:27:39PM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: Jon Portnoy wrote: [Mon Apr 03 2006, 06:52:33PM CDT] On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 07:35:52PM -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: Clearly this sentence states that Infra has usurped the suspension process. It's very disappointing since

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-04 Thread Jon Portnoy
of the proposed code of conduct :) -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-04 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 12:30:29PM +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: Jon Portnoy wrote: On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 11:50:18AM +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote: I feel really confused. Have you read the logs of the recent affair? Devrel *hadn't* requested anything, infra made an action on their own

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-28 Thread Jon Portnoy
to progress... this is why we elect representatives. Overall I think this would be a regression. -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-29 Thread Jon Portnoy
or not, anybody can contribute. They don't need to be @gentoo.org to do so. What we really need is to focus more on those outside contributions. -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-29 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:38:17AM -0500, Daniel Goller wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Portnoy wrote: On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 08:41:31AM -0500, Daniel Goller wrote: inviting community) and why you think stricter test make for better developers, why you think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Heritage

2006-05-09 Thread Jon Portnoy
issue from where I'm sitting... -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-22 Thread Jon Portnoy
. Please don't change your wording on that. The feel really strongly about the primary pkg manager of Gentoo needing remain under the full control of Gentoo Linux. Agreed, I'm of the opinion it would be inappropriate to let an outside entity steer our primary package manager. -- Jon

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-22 Thread Jon Portnoy
). If the primary package manager is controlled by Gentoo, we exercise somewhat more control over the direction it takes in the first place and can avoid ever needing to fork or deal with any potentially poor upstream relations. -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Jon Portnoy
very much object to using any gentoo.org infrastructure or subdomains to do so. If someone is going to tackle that, it should be done outside of Gentoo proper. We don't need to be stuck maintaining and supporting a semiofficial overlay. -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrice: arch team perspective

2006-06-09 Thread Jon Portnoy
submitted the maintainer-wanted ebuilds? And while we're talking collateral damage, could the Sunrise folks please make sure it's abundantly clear that users shouldn't ask for support in #gentoo after installing any Sunrise ebuilds? Thanks, Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: packages going into the tree with non-gentoo maintainers

2006-09-07 Thread Jon Portnoy
developers for extended history of QA violations. Not true, unfortunately these problems seem to very rarely get communicated to devrel... -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

2006-09-20 Thread Jon Portnoy
? You're the only one getting territorial about it, I'm curious as to what the real issue is. -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-05 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 08:50:49AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote: Just replying randomly. On 05.04.2010 04:33, Tobias Heinlein wrote: I think this is a good starting point to get rid of the some important questions are too hard to answer dilemma that can be implemented relatively fast. On top

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-05 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 05:50:49PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: That assumes the system is working perfectly and the whole fact that we are having this discussion would go against that. From what i've read in the community, lots of people would have no problems helping out maintaining

[gentoo-dev] Devrel changes

2005-05-03 Thread Jon Portnoy
I've resigned the devrel lead position; dmwaters will be filling it. I'm too unglued lately to deal with silly crap, and frankly Deedra's been doing the vast majority of devrel managing for a long time anyway. I'll be sticking around in devrel to maintain the quiz and provide input. -- Jon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about licenses

2005-06-15 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:00:57PM +0200, Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: Jon Portnoy wrote: Symlink? If MIT == MetaKit, then: ^^ ln -s MIT MetaKit I don't know about this specific case but generally speaking licenses that're similar in language and intent have very small

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: splitting one source package into many binaries

2005-06-17 Thread Jon Portnoy
you don't turn it on I'd have to say the only way it'd get turned on is if your system is already compromised -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Jon Portnoy
deserve a different treatment. AFAIK they still plan to go through devrel, just add a forums person to the recruiters team so existing recruiters aren't flooded with new staff all of a sudden -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 06:48:51AM -0400, Jon Portnoy wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:28:20PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 12:19:34PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: I still don't see *WHY* you should be different from us. If you want to manage your

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:00:21PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Tuesday 28 June 2005 12:48, Jon Portnoy wrote: AFAIK they still plan to go through devrel, just add a forums person to the recruiters team so existing recruiters aren't flooded with new staff all of a sudden

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Jon Portnoy
assuming here). So what/where is the big deal about it? Maybe just that Developer sounds prettier than Staff. The rest is exactly as you stated. Now let me ask developers this: Does it really matter you if we are called developers instead of staff? Yes. You don't develop anything -- Jon

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:01:57PM +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: On 6/28/05, Jon Portnoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Developers have CVS access; take the ebuild quiz and you're a developer, take the staff quiz (the eight-question quiz some mods apparently don't like for whatever bizarre

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Jon Portnoy
and think: Am I making myself look like a bigger asshat than the other guy? Please try to refrain from posting any more stupid flames to what is supposed to be a productive development list. This is not USENET. -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO]

2005-07-09 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 12:00:50PM -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Portnoy wrote: On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 10:54:46AM -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote: So when can we discuss the salaries you're going to pay the team leads to waste fairly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO]

2005-07-10 Thread Jon Portnoy
resolution reviewed every time is a problem, maybe you should start there :) -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-20 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Sat, Aug 20, 2005 at 11:31:30AM -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote: I really am curious here: a) What are the team leads spending most of their time on? Hopefully not reading this thread -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla handling for maintainer-wanted things

2005-08-20 Thread Jon Portnoy
point taken, working on it, don't impair our productivity more than that. thank you The only devs I've seen complain are yourself and Jon Portnoy. Nobody is forcing you to read the thread... I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that's because you don't realize how many devs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-13 Thread Jon Portnoy
, conflict resolution, disciplinary issues. I.e., 'managing developers.' -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-13 Thread Jon Portnoy
by the QA team -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-13 Thread Jon Portnoy
? Bwahahahah... err. :) ) -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-15 Thread Jon Portnoy
). These are not closed groups. Agreed. We don't need a second devrel, rather we need to make sure QA isn't ignored by devrel -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-06 Thread Jon Portnoy
think that the actual pain would be minimal. ^^^ Haven't been to #gentoo lately have you? :) -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing

2005-12-24 Thread Jon Portnoy
: someone who pays for goods or services [syn: {client}] When did we start selling Gentoo? (Admittedly we sell optical media via the Gentoo Store, but the software is still free-as-in-beer) -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Relicensing sys-freebsd/* under the BSD-2 license

2012-03-30 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:52:18PM -0400, Richard Yao wrote: The improvement is to the ebuild itself. It is a variable containing a list of directories upon which the module's build system depends. I spoke to naota and he doesn't have any problem sending this upstream, so I sent an email

Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

2006-10-10 Thread Jon Portnoy
producing code for the project, trust me on that one. Perhaps get involved in userrel then? Plenty of ways to get involved without necessarily producing code directly -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Retirement

2006-11-03 Thread Jon Portnoy
is really concerned about; robbat2 has already laid claim to fortune-mod-gentoo-dev ;) Later. It's been fun, it's been real, but it hasn't been real fun. :) I'll be around #gentoo/#-dev. -- Jon Portnoy avenj/irc.freenode.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo

2010-08-23 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 09:03:41PM -0400, Olivier Cr?te wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 18:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: which is trivial to fix and anyone with commit privs could have done. it certainly doesnt warrant a paniced the sky is falling message. I think this is a great occasion

Re: [gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS

2014-01-10 Thread Jon Portnoy
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 08:48:30PM +0400, Igor wrote: Do we have an agreement on this one from everyone of the list? Agreement on what, precisely...? In open source, better implementations usually gain more mindshare. If you think you can write one (and the project is interesting to you) go