Re: [gentoo-dev] looking for mentor

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat

I may not have interpreted your message correctly. If I inferred something
from it that you didn't intend to convey, please clarify.

Developing the Portage software itself is an entirely different process than
creating an ebuild: unless you're planning to contribute enhancement code to
Gentoolkit or Portage, they're just a set of tools for package development and
management. In order to create an ebuild, you need to know what package you 
/want/ to bring into the tree. Randomly submitting ebuilds that will shortly
thereafter be without a home is only a recipe for neglected packages.

  

I'm aware of the fact that building portage related software is
different from creating ebuilds. I'm interested in the openoffice
ebuilds, as well as scheme and some lisp related ebuilds.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Ned Ludd wrote:

On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:22 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
  

Currently pam stuff (implementations, modules) are organized in the worst way 
I ever seen.
Most of them are in sys-libs, some of them in app-admin, other in app-crypt, 
pam_smb in net-misc and so on.

I think we should reorganize them and have a sys-pam category with 
implementations (Linux-PAM and OpenPAM) and the modules needed.

Such a change would require a lot of work and we can't count on epkgmove I 
think, but if someone is going to help me or at least tell me how to do such 
a change without breaking everything (always if such a change is accepted, 
obv.)..

Comments?



Diego:
This is not directed at you solely but expresses my general feelings on 
the topic of ever moving packages.

I think they are fine where they are. Moving stuff around is a waste of 
time. Makes things more complex. Makes more work on everybody. 
Invalidates binary package trees. It places stress on rsync servers. It
makes people have to rewrite rsync_exclude files. Makes it harder for 
scripts that interact with portage. And in the end really gains us next
to nothing. Please stop moving stuff around for cosmetic reasons. I see
far to many threads about changing stuff. No real valuable work ever
gets done. Stuff simply just gets shifted around somebody can think of a
new way to categorize existing data.

  

I do agree with you but some package just have completely wrong place
within portage, such package placements migh confuse the user.
To give an example: mzscheme was placed in dev-lisp while portage had a
dev-scheme directory.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Nathan L. Adams wrote:


Then why is their a browsable Categories link on the packages site?

http://packages.gentoo.org/categories/


Very good question , ..

I don't agree with Ned. Organizing the packages logically makes things
less confusing for the end-user and developers alike and doesn't qualify
as a cosmetic reason. It *is* valuable work, IMHO.



I often use simple unix tools like ls grep etc .. to search for things
in my portage tree I find that this goes alot quicker then using the
user utilities , so I guess your right those need more attention then
the tree structure.

That's not to say that the user tools shouldn't be improved where
possible, of course. I don't think anyone would argue with that.

Nathan



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[gentoo-dev] looking for mentor

2005-06-04 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Hello guys,

I've been using gentoo for 2 years now and I'm really found of this
distrobution , never touched an other distro since then.
Lately I've been creating some small probably meaningless ebuilds for
several packages like tinyscheme and adding some bug reports etc ..
I'm also looking into gentoolkit , already had some contact about that
with karltk.
Now as you can see I'm getting involved and somewhere in the holy gentoo
developers handbook I read that a new developer should have mentor ..

Short info about me:
I'm 20 years old, live in Belgium meanly Brussels, still a college student.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] looking for mentor

2005-06-04 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Mike Frysinger wrote

you can join #gentoo-dev and we dont mind giving voice to people who are 
interested in joining development ...

  

I'm there most of the time my nick is eniac.

the first step to becoming a dev really is to figure out *what* you want to 
work on ... after that it's pretty easy to locate the sub group of devs to 
integrate yourself with
  


I'm interested in portage and gentoolkits , that includes mainting and
creating ebuilds.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bashrc mini HOWTO

2005-05-25 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Chris White wrote:

Hi guys,

   Well, I was working on my bashrc one day and thought, gee, would be 
 nice for other people to know what the heck is going on too!.  Well, I 
 decided to go ahead and do that :P.  So, here we go, a mini bashrc HOWTO 
 (note this only works on the latest stable of portage.  You go grab cvs head 
 and try this, you can kiss yer but goodbye! :D).

HOW DOES IT WORK

if [ -f ${PORTAGE_BASHRC} ]; then
source ${PORTAGE_BASHRC}

This little code in ebuild.sh pretty much sums it up.  Basically, when 
ebuild.sh is run with various ebuild stages (unpack, compile, postinst, etc.. 
etc.. etc.), it sources the bashrc file (located in /etc/portage/bashrc), 
giving it the exact same environment as ebuild.sh has.  So, your bashrc file 
pretty much ends up like a mini ebuild.  Now that we've explained that, let's 
get down and dirty.

LET'S USE IT

case $*  in
# stay really quiet here.
depend) : ;;
*)
[ $* = compile ]  package-pre-compile
[ $* = postinst ]  package-post-install
;;
esac

Here's some sample code for my small bashrc file.  This is something I pulled 
from solar's bashrc and adjusted it a bit.  $* is all parameters passed to 
the program.  This means the ebuild stage in this particular case.  So 
package-pre-compile is run when the compile stage is hit, and 
package-post-install is run when the postinst stage is hit.  Here, depend is 
silenced, as ebuilds get depend'ed a LOT, things get kind of noisy.  Now that 
we know what stages we can run stuff at, let's see what we can do with 
environmental variables.

ENVIRONMENTAL VARIABLES

Well, first off portage is kind of restrictive.  That said, anything you need 
to pull from /usr/bin  you're probably going to have to add it to PATH:

package-post-install() {
PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/sbin

As such.  If you have program not found errors, chances are you didn't do 
this.  So now, what about FEATURES.  That's right,  you can actually use 
FEATURES as well to cook up some nice stuff.  In my case, I had portage update 
the whatis database when it's done installing.  This is nice because I'm 
horribly lazy and wouldn't have the guts to do it manually/add a cron job.  
Here we go:

if has whatis ${FEATURES}  test -x 
 /usr/sbin/makewhatis ; then
echo *** whatis enabled.  Updating the whatis 
 database...
# update the whatis database
`makewhatis -u`
fi
}

Alright so, remember how I said that bashrc is a mini-ebuild?  Note how you 
can use the same has command that ebuilds can.  This is because we're being 
sourced from ebuild.sh, and therefore have all its functions.  What does that 
mean?  That means you get this:

addread
addwrite
adddeny
addpredict
esyslog
use
usev
useq
has
hasv
hasq
has_version
portageq
best_version
use_with
use_enable
diefunc
check_KV
keepdir
unpack
strip_duplicate_slashes
all the stuff described in man 5 ebuild (too lazy to list here)
killparent
remove_path_entry
do_newdepend
inherit (yes.. you can inherit eclasses.. weird ain't it...)
debug-print-function
debug-print-section

And you also notice FEATURES.  It can even do all the nifty portage variables 
too (default and in /etc/make.conf).  So that's it, with this nice little 
touch you can do cool customizations to the portage process, without messing 
with portage code ;).

Chris White
  

I gave this a quick look, and aren't you talking about bash scripts in
general rather then .bashrc files using /etc/portage/bashrc as reference
for this document.
Also I can't see the real use , that's why I started reading then
quickly scanned through it .. and now I'm writting this email ..
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bashrc mini HOWTO

2005-05-25 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Alec Warner wrote:

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Jonas Geiregat wrote:
snip ChrisWhite
  

I gave this a quick look, and aren't you talking about bash scripts in
general rather then .bashrc files using /etc/portage/bashrc as reference
for this document.
Also I can't see the real use , that's why I started reading then
quickly scanned through it .. and now I'm writting this email ..



normal bash scripts aren't sourced by portage when ebuilds are being
processed.  Only PORTAGE_BASHRC ( current /etc/portage/bashrc ) is
sourced.  Thus you can do cool stuff like print debug info, over-ride
default functions, and otherwise other fun stuff that normally would be
a complete PITA, especially if you don't know portage internals well.
  


No such file on my system, is that the reason why I should use the cvs
version of portage, so the new version will source /etc/portage/bashrc
when it comes out of cvs ?

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[gentoo-dev] problem with first ebuild

2005-05-24 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Hi,

I've presented this problem already to 2 developers, both of them where
unable to help me.

I hope I can find a solution on this list.

I've created my first ebuild, I've included the ebuild script the patch
and the output of the emerge tinyscheme command.

The problem is with the install -g root -o root -m 755 scheme etc ..
command, it seems to run fine but at the end nothing is installed 

If I patch the source myself and run make  make
DESTDIR=/home/jonas/bin install; everything works fine ...

I find it a really odd problem..

Regards Jonas
# Copyright 2000-2005 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: $

inherit eutils

DESCRIPTION=Lightweight scheme interpreter
HOMEPAGE=http://tinyscheme.sourceforge.net;
SRC_URI=http://tinyscheme.sourceforge.net/tinyscheme-1.35.tar.gz;

LICENSE=BSD
SLOT=0
KEYWORDS=~ppc
IUSE=

DEPEND=
RDEPEND=

src_unpack() {
unpack ${A}  || die
cd ${S}
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-make-install.patch
}

src_compile() {
emake || die
}

src_install() {
echo ${D}
make DESTDIR=${D} install || die
}

Calculating dependencies ...done!
 emerge (1 of 1) dev-scheme/tinyscheme-1.35 to /
 md5 files   ;-) tinyscheme-1.35.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) files/digest-tinyscheme-1.35
 md5 files   ;-) files/tinyscheme-1.35-make-install.patch
 md5 src_uri ;-) tinyscheme-1.35.tar.gz
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking tinyscheme-1.35.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/tinyscheme-1.35/work
 * Applying tinyscheme-1.35-make-install.patch ...  
[ ok ]
 Source unpacked.
gcc -fpic  -I. -c -g -Wno-char-subscripts -O -DSUN_DL=1 -DUSE_DL=1 -DUSE_MATH=0 
-DUSE_ASCII_NAMES=0   scheme.c
gcc -fpic  -I. -c -g -Wno-char-subscripts -O -DSUN_DL=1 -DUSE_DL=1 -DUSE_MATH=0 
-DUSE_ASCII_NAMES=0   dynload.c
dynload.c:24:1: warning: SUN_DL redefined
command line:11:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
gcc  -shared  -o libtinyscheme.so  scheme.o  dynload.o   -ldl
ar crs libtinyscheme.a scheme.o  dynload.o
gcc -fpic  -o scheme -g -Wno-char-subscripts -O scheme.o  dynload.o   -ldl
 Test phase [not enabled]: dev-scheme/tinyscheme-1.35

 Install tinyscheme-1.35 into /var/tmp/portage/tinyscheme-1.35/image/ 
 category dev-scheme
/var/tmp/portage/tinyscheme-1.35/image/
install -o root -g root -m 755 scheme 
/var/tmp/portage/tinyscheme-1.35/image//bin
man:
prepallstrip:
strip: powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded
strip: powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu-strip --strip-unneeded
   bin
 Completed installing tinyscheme-1.35 into 
 /var/tmp/portage/tinyscheme-1.35/image/

 Merging dev-scheme/tinyscheme-1.35 to /
!!! /bin
 /bin
 Safely unmerging already-installed instance...
--- makefile.b  2003-01-07 20:01:04.0 +0100
+++ makefile2005-05-24 17:00:36.773034840 +0200
@@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
 OUT = -o $@ 
 RM= -rm -f
 AR= ar crs
+DESTDIR=/usr
  
 # Linux 
 LD = gcc 
@@ -82,3 +83,6 @@
 tags: TAGS 
 TAGS: $(TAGS_SRCS) 
etags $(TAGS_SRCS) 
+
+install:
+   install -o root -g root -m 755 scheme$(EXE_EXIT) $(DESTDIR)/bin 


Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintaining an ebuild

2005-05-24 Thread Jonas Geiregat
Fredrik Tolf wrote:

Hi List!

This is probably a FAQ, but I really couldn't find the answer. I've
STFW'd, RTFM'd and RTFDeveloper's Handbook, but I still have no answer.

The thing is, I've got a li'l program of mine that I'd like to have in
portage. I've written an ebuild and all (which works with
PORTDIR_OVERLAY), but I have no idea if I can maintain it myself in
portage (and, in that case, how I would acquire the permission for that)
or if I have to ask someone on the inside to do it for me (and, in that
case, who I should ask).

Flame me all you want, but please point out where it says at the same
time. ;-)

Fredrik Tolf


  

Not really a FAQ but you can find the answer here :
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml
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