Re: [gentoo-dev] dropping support for

2012-05-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 10 May 2012 15:01:06 Florian Philipp wrote: > Am 09.05.2012 15:47, schrieb Mike Frysinger: > > our glibc versions long ago stopped working with linux-2.4 due to NPTL > > being required. further, we've long set the min kernel version to 2.6.9 > > in the ebuild

[gentoo-dev] updated path for arm ldso hardfp

2012-05-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
if you're not using arm, or you're using softfp, then feel free to stop reading i've backported the patches from upstream gcc/glibc to use the new ldso paths for arm hardfp targets. atm, this is in glibc-2.15 and gcc-4.5.3 and gcc-4.6.3. so if you have one of these systems where you're runnin

[gentoo-dev] dropping support for

2012-05-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
our glibc versions long ago stopped working with linux-2.4 due to NPTL being required. further, we've long set the min kernel version to 2.6.9 in the ebuild itself. so bumping it to 2.6.16 isn't a stretch. the driving force here is that glibc upstream is looking to set the min kernel version

Re: [gentoo-dev] skel.ebuild cosmetics (move RESTRICT after DEPEND)

2012-05-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 06 May 2012 17:56:41 Michael Sterrett wrote: > I prefer it right after IUSE which is where it currently is in skel.ebuild. this -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-05-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 05 May 2012 13:10:10 Alec Warner wrote: > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Maxim Koltsov wrote: > > I just installed fresh system on my pc, selected > > 'default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop' profile and noticed ldap among > > default USE flags. Why is that needed? I suppose there are more use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 04 May 2012 21:06:52 Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:58:24PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > Remember, you are passing the complexity of insisting that you do not > > want these things to the people managing the packages and trying to > > support the system in so many different comb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 04 May 2012 15:25:58 David Leverton wrote: > Luca Barbato wrote: > > On 03/05/12 16:18, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> you need to think bigger. Chromium supports joystick inputs (which come > >> and go) for playing games in the browser, so udev makes sense. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 04 May 2012 05:43:55 Samuli Suominen wrote: > =dev-util/pkgconfig- with USE="internal-glib" in Portage. I'm > hoping this will render the pkg-config-lite useless so we can drop it. > > I'm very much intrested in knowing if this matches the requirements for > doing so, so I can decid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 04 May 2012 12:36:20 Steven J Long wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > - this is why /etc/localtime is no longer a symlink to > > /usr/share/zoneinfo/ > > - don't think that makes any difference to rescue situation. no, but that isn't the driving fact

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 04 May 2012 05:30:31 Jeff Horelick wrote: > If anyone would like to help me converting random packages/categories, > it would be GREATLY appreciated. This is difficult work and it has > literally taken up almost all of my free time for the past 2 days or > so, but I have well over half th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 03 May 2012 20:49:25 Luca Barbato wrote: > On 03/05/12 16:18, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 03 May 2012 17:39:30 Walter Dnes wrote: > >> I fail to understand why a *WEB BROWSER* needs elfutils and dbus and > >> udev as hard-coded dependancies. > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-05-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 03 May 2012 17:39:30 Walter Dnes wrote: > I think Chromium's problem is that it's based on Chrome. you've got that wrong. Chrome is based on Chromium. > And Google is "pulling an AOL" by trying to turn Chrome into an OS for its > Chromebooks. ChromeOS and Chrome are run as semi-se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/default/bsd: ChangeLog profile.bashrc

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 03 May 2012 00:25:25 Naohiro Aota wrote: > Mike Gilbert writes: > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> Oops, something went wrong here. Please fix your terminal/editor > >> encoding to unicode. > > > > I have two questions: > > > > 1. Was this a repoman or ec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/default/bsd: ChangeLog profile.bashrc

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 02 May 2012 16:49:21 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 May 2012 14:04:57 Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> 2. If so, do these tools need to be fixed to always generate UTF-8? > > > > i don't thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/default/bsd: ChangeLog profile.bashrc

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 02 May 2012 14:04:57 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > Oops, something went wrong here. Please fix your terminal/editor encoding > > to unicode. > > I have two questions: > > 1. Was this a repoman or echangelog generated entry? repoman

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 29 April 2012 18:11:58 Mike Frysinger wrote: > the canonical pkg-config is getting fat. it requires glib-2. it runs pkg- > we've got an implementation in perl (i'm not interested in), but there is > also "pkg-config-lite" and "pkgconf". they sh

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-05-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 01 May 2012 12:51:55 William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 11:45:01AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 May 2012 11:06:42 William Hubbs wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:59:02AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > we already hav

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-05-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 01 May 2012 11:45:01 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 01 May 2012 11:06:42 William Hubbs wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:59:02AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > the fact that the script leaves your system in a hard to recover state > > > is what

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-05-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 01 May 2012 11:06:42 William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 11:59:02AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > the fact that the script leaves your system in a hard to recover state is > > what i'm whining about, not that udev requires devtmpfs. > > So w

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 12:03:48 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 30 April 2012 06:35:20 Maxim Kammerer wrote: > > there is still no need to mount /proc and parse > > /proc/mounts in order to find out whether a directory is a mount > > point, since Busybox has a "mountpo

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 22:57:29 Walter Dnes wrote: > The one thing I'm leary of is moving the actual app from /bin/busybox > to /ginit. IANACP (I Am Not A C Programmer), let alone a developer, so > I may be missing something. Is there an overwhelming reason to depart > from the standard locati

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 14:27:29 Samuli Suominen wrote: > +1 for creating the virtual and migrating the tree to use > virtual/pkgconfig. although, on the otherhand, you could just use > package.provided for thesetype of unsupported experiments (like i'm > doing with pkgconfig-openbsd) ok, with no

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 15:42:35 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 04/30/2012 10:07 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:11:58 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> the canonical pkg-config is getting fat. it requires glib-2. it > >> runs pkg- config when building.

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 13:16:52 Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 19:03, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > i don't know what you mean by "OS functions", but the whole point is that > > this code *cannot* execute *any* external program by default. > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 12:32:35 Matt Turner wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Monday 30 April 2012 12:00:59 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> doing it wrong. I don't like how Google develops Android in the dark, > >> or that they bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 12:14:19 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Monday 30 April 2012 02:34:18 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> >>>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> > i&#x

[gentoo-dev] Chromium bundled code

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 12:00:59 Rich Freeman wrote: > doing it wrong. I don't like how Google develops Android in the dark, > or that they bundle 1GB of third-party stuff in their Chromium source > and distribute a favored binary-only derivative. err, they distribute a Chromium source tarball, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 02:16:40 Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:08:34 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Sunday 29 April 2012 18:40:00 Jeff Horelick wrote: > > > I'd just like to say, i'm also an Atheme project member and I have > > > authorisat

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 06:35:20 Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 05:00, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > this is all in busybox-1.20.0 which is now in the tree. if people want > > to try it out before i unmask it, that'd be great. > > If you insist on ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 02:34:18 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > i've added a new USE=sep-usr flag to busybox. when enabled, this > > will install a static busybox at /ginit (and have the other busybox > > pat

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 01:28:58 William Hubbs wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:48:55AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > it leaves your system in a hard to recover state because you happened to > > forget to check a filesystem option (which ironically isn't under > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 April 2012 00:31:52 William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:00:26PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > finally, since the recent udev-mount init.d script is completely brain > > dead and refuses to execute unless devtmpfs is enabled, this code will > > als

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-04-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 29 April 2012 18:40:00 Jeff Horelick wrote: > On 29 April 2012 18:11, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > the canonical pkg-config is getting fat. it requires glib-2. it runs > > pkg- config when building. glib-2 requires pkg-config. whee. > > > > for our norma

[gentoo-dev] busybox[sep-usr] support for mounting /usr w/out hassle

2012-04-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
i've added a new USE=sep-usr flag to busybox. when enabled, this will install a static busybox at /ginit (and have the other busybox paths symlink to that so there's no overhead). this new applet has a hand written set of commands to automatically mount /dev /proc /sys /usr and seed /dev, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changing default serial-console definition in inittab

2012-04-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 April 2012 13:29:54 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Since I've been configuring a couple of systems lately for remote > access, which include configuring the serial console, I'm wondering if > it would be a good idea to change our inittab so that the default > (commented out) definition of

[gentoo-dev] new virtual/pkgconfig to support lighter alternatives

2012-04-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
the canonical pkg-config is getting fat. it requires glib-2. it runs pkg- config when building. glib-2 requires pkg-config. whee. for our normal systems, this isn't a big deal. but we'd like to enable a lighter alternative for embedded/alternative systems. as such, i'd like to introduce a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Feature request: package.use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.force

2012-04-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 April 2012 03:30:43 Zac Medico wrote: > On 04/26/2012 11:48 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > > On 04/26/2012 11:28 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> On Friday 27 April 2012 00:43:15 Jonathan Callen wrote: > >>> On 04/26/2012 06:03 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

2012-04-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 11 April 2012 12:10:05 Steven J Long wrote: > William Hubbs wrote: > > Another issue to consider is binaries that want to access things in > > /usr/share/*. If a binary in /{bin,sbin} needs to access something in > > /usr/share/*, you have two choices. move the binary to /usr or move t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Feature request: package.use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.force

2012-04-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 April 2012 00:43:15 Jonathan Callen wrote: > On 04/26/2012 06:03 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > I'd like to suggest we introduce the following very useful > > feature, as soon as possible (which likely means in the next > > EAPI?): > > > > * two new files in profile directories sup

Re: [gentoo-dev] Feature request: package.use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.force

2012-04-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 26 April 2012 18:03:54 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > * two new files in profile directories supported, package.use.stable.mask > and package.use.stable.force > * syntax is identical to package.use.mask and package.use.force > * meaning is identical to package.use.mask and package.use.forc

Re: [gentoo-dev] unsafe use of gtk-query-immodules

2012-04-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 April 2012 05:27:10 Fabio Erculiani wrote: > Like it happened with gtk-pixbuf-query-loaders, gtk-query-immodules is > used in an unsafe way as well. > There are several reasons that could make gtk-query-immodules fail at > runtime (SIG*, missing sonames, etc). > > Using it this way

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal to move use.local.desc somewhere in /var

2012-04-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 25 April 2012 02:26:19 Steven J Long wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > > Paul Varner wrote: > >> Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >> > Why are we keeping it? I move that we remove it. It's been replaced > >> > by USE flags in metadata.xml for sev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to move use.local.desc somewhere in /var

2012-04-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 April 2012 12:45:22 Paul Varner wrote: > On 04/24/12 11:21, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 04:11:44PM +0200, Theo Chatzimichos wrote: > >> log from #gentoo-portage: zmedico: (random idea) would > >> it make sence to generate local.use.desc in /var/cache, or > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to move use.local.desc somewhere in /var

2012-04-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 April 2012 10:11:44 Theo Chatzimichos wrote: > Since .cvsignore is needed either way, I'm going to do it in three > days if there are no objections. But I'd like some feedback for the > move of the file in /var. Opinions? considering the server generates it and the end user never doe

Re: [gentoo-dev] epatch_user usage

2012-04-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 April 2012 00:18:59 Michał Górny wrote: > It's simply better just to assume: if user wants user patches, he/she > needs to have necessary deps installed. if the package doesn't ever run autotools itself, i think this assumption is fine. set AUTOTOOLS_AUTO_DEPEND=no before inherting

Re: [gentoo-dev] epatch_user usage

2012-04-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 24 April 2012 00:15:45 Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 00:10:30 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Monday 23 April 2012 23:45:36 Doug Goldstein wrote: > > > So I've just had one reservation when using epatch_user for allowing > > > users to ap

Re: [gentoo-dev] epatch_user usage

2012-04-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 23 April 2012 23:45:36 Doug Goldstein wrote: > So I've just had one reservation when using epatch_user for allowing > users to apply patches. And that's figuring out when to run > eautoreconf. I don't necessarily want to run it unconditionally but > sometimes users have patches which touc

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: A tiny news item for migrating to libjpeg-turbo

2012-04-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 23 April 2012 15:19:31 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 02:22:53PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote > > > All users are recommended to migrate: > > > > # emerge -C media-libs/jpeg:0 > > # emerge -1 media-libs/libjpeg-turbo > > How about mentioning revdep-rebuild in the instru

Re: [gentoo-dev] .LIBPATTERNS harmful?

2012-04-22 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 22 April 2012 00:44:11 Steven J Long wrote: > I can find nothing overriding it in portage, which makes sense, since in > general one cannot know if the package in question uses gmake .LIBPATTERNS > to link to locally-built libs. However I can't help thinking of it as > harmful for a packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] epatch: splitting out common options from user-specific ones

2012-04-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 20 April 2012 16:06:02 Leho Kraav wrote: > On 20.04.2012 22:59, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > i just committed it since no one responded. so sync up. > > > >> $ EPATCH_OPTS="--ignore-whitespace" emerge -va pf-sources > > > > that's not

Re: [gentoo-dev] epatch: splitting out common options from user-specific ones

2012-04-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 20 April 2012 15:38:19 Leho Kraav wrote: > On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:10:02 PM UTC+3, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > it isn't uncommon for people to want to force the patch (-p#) or fuzz > > (-f#) level when applying specific patches. but it is unusual that they >

Re: [gentoo-dev] epatch: splitting out common options from user-specific ones

2012-04-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 19 April 2012 23:24:19 Mike Frysinger wrote: > @@ -445,6 +473,7 @@ epatch() { > local patch_cmd > while [[ ${count} -lt 5 ]] ; do > patch_cmd="${BASH_ALIASES[patch]:-patch} -p${count} &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] epatch: splitting out common options from user-specific ones

2012-04-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
no complaints, so here's the patch. precedence order is EPATCH_COMMON_OPTS then EPATCH_OPTS then whatever has been specified on the cmdline. so you can do: EPATCH_OPTS="-F0" epatch epatch -p0 epatch (more for highlighting precedence than a realistic use case) -m

[gentoo-dev] openssl-1.0.1* moving to unstable

2012-04-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
the openssl project has started a new trend in keeping minor versions ABI compatible. in the past, 0.9.7 and 0.9.8 had different SONAMEs (because they diff ABIs). but now with 1.0.1, the minor/patch versions should have the same SONAME and ABI. however, the new 1.0.1 ebuilds have been masked

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ocamlopt unmask on arm

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 April 2012 22:14:54 hero...@gentoo.org wrote: > How about unmasking it now? file a bug for the arm team to request keywordings. we'll probably say yes. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] epatch: splitting out common options from user-specific ones

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
it isn't uncommon for people to want to force the patch (-p#) or fuzz (-f#) level when applying specific patches. but it is unusual that they want to kill off the extra options: -g0 -E --no-backup-if-mismatch. so i'd like to split these off and improve the epatch API. # Extra options to pass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making user patches globally available

2012-04-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 18 April 2012 12:59:13 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 01:35:40 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > > Funtoo has support for FEATURES=localpatch, which does the epatch_user > > thing before src_prepare. I think it should really go after > > src_prepare, in order to apply patches afte

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is gcc-4.7.0 going to be in portage tree anytime soon?

2012-04-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 17 April 2012 09:40:22 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2012 15:36:51 kabel wrote: > > Hello there, I just wanted to ask when an ebuild for gcc-4.7.0 will be > > in portage tree (unkeyworded, I suppose, like 4.6.0-4.6.2 are). > > You can just follow the version bump request

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About adding a way to check for bugs referring to no longer existing packages in the tree

2012-04-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 April 2012 21:04:01 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 11:55:04 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Well, I currently manually do eix searching to check it, maybe would > > be a way to compare eix outputs with "${CATEGORY}/${PKGNAME}" from bug > > summaries (bugs without that naming

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making user patches globally available

2012-04-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 15 April 2012 04:16:41 Ryan Hill wrote: > Is there any reason why this couldn't just be done in the package manager, > making user patches available for all ebuilds without code changes? i originally added it to eutils eclass and only called it in some ebuilds because people were agains

Re: [gentoo-dev] Debugging a Linux kernel deadlock when doing swap on ZFS

2012-04-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 April 2012 19:30:08 Richard Yao wrote: > I am running Gentoo on ZFS using the kernel modules from sys-kernel/spl > and sys-fs/zfs. If I put swap on ZFS, the kernel appears to deadlock > when it tries to use it. I am having trouble getting a backtrace. > > Does anyone have any sugges

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFD: EAPI specification in ebuilds

2012-04-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 12 April 2012 15:53:07 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > There is consensus in the gentoo-pms mailing list that we should > tighten the rules for the position of the EAPI assignment in ebuilds, > namely that it should take place in the first non-blank and > non-comment line. > > The devmanual al

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.14 for stable

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 10 April 2012 15:44:05 Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > On Tuesday 10 April 2012 15:35:39 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > there's one known bug (with a patch posted), so if you guys have anything > > that'd block glibc-2.14 for stable, nows' the time to file the bugs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo CJK team empty, or anyone knows about ibus?

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 02 April 2012 22:29:47 Naohiro Aota wrote: > Pacho Ramos writes: > >> > > Will CC cjk team then to let them know you are interested to join > >> > > (looks like there are four devs in cjk alias...) > > > > Any updates on this? > > I didn't notice him been working to return dev, I sent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Are we allowed to provide valid SRC_URI for fetch restricted packages?

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 26 February 2012 06:34:13 Kacper Kowalik wrote: > I've been asked by a user to remove valid SRC_URI for a package that has > RESTRICT="fetch". The package in question requires you to go to > upstream's webpage, sign license agreement and then you're fed with > download link. User argues t

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.15 for unstable

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
once glibc-2.14 starts stabilizing, i'll be moving 2.15 into unstable -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.14 for stable

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
there's one known bug (with a patch posted), so if you guys have anything that'd block glibc-2.14 for stable, nows' the time to file the bugs (and mark it a blocker of 370409). -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] GSoC project

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
please don't top post, and stop sending html e-mail also, we have a GSoC list for this stuff. please see the site: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/userrel/soc/ -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] unpacker.eclass and base.eclass integration

2012-02-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
follow up: have base.eclass leverage unpacker.eclass when it's available -mike --- base.eclass 14 Dec 2011 23:38:09 - 1.55 +++ base.eclass 5 Feb 2012 05:19:28 - @@ -59,7 +59,11 @@ base_src_unpack() { pushd "${WORKDIR}" > /dev/null - [[ -n "${A}" ]] && unpack ${A} +

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: New eclass: mozlinguas.eclass

2012-02-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 03 February 2012 11:44:42 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> mozlinguas() { > > > > missing eclass documentation > > Is it really needed for private functions? Nothing should ever call this. needed ? no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: New eclass: mozlinguas.eclass

2012-02-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
please post it inline to make review easier > # @MAINTAINER: mozi...@gentoo.org > # @AUTHOR: Nirbheek Chauhan goes on newline, not inlined > # @DESCRIPTION: Array containing the list of language pack xpis available text starts on the next line, not the existing line > # @ECLASS-VARIABLE: LANG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages masked for lack of maintainer, but metadata.xml says otherwise

2012-02-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 February 2012 17:56:16 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > there have been a number of packages masked lately due to lack of > maintainer. However, their metadata.xml does not list > maintainer-needed@g.o which I think should be the first step in > searching for a new maintainer.

Re: [gentoo-dev] unpacker.eclass

2012-02-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
here's v2 -mike # Copyright 1999-2012 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/eutils.eclass,v 1.377 2012/01/03 08:45:36 jlec Exp $ # @ECLASS: unpacker.eclass # @MAINTAINER: # base-sys...@gentoo.org # @BLURB: h

Re: [gentoo-dev] unpacker.eclass

2012-02-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 February 2012 03:06:46 Michał Górny wrote: > #v+ > SRC_URI="foo-bar-baz.rar" > > inherit unpacker inherit goes before SRC_URI -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] unpacker.eclass

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 01 February 2012 18:12:02 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:55:46 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 01 February 2012 15:51:52 Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:44:14 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > > # @

Re: [gentoo-dev] unpacker.eclass

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 01 February 2012 15:51:52 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:44:14 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > # @USAGE: [archives that we will unpack] > > > > # @RETURN: Dependencies needed to unpack all the archives > > > > # @DESCRIPTION:

Re: [gentoo-dev] unpacker.eclass

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 01 February 2012 15:30:16 Michał Górny wrote: > On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 15:05:40 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > # You have to specify the off_t size ... I have no idea how to > > extract that # information out of the binary executable myself. > > Basically you pass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 31 January 2012 19:58:32 Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 01/29/2012 02:14 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Saturday 28 January 2012 07:26:59 Anthony G. Basile wrote: > >> I've run nbench on two amd64 systems both running the same kernel > >> vanilla-3.2.2.

[gentoo-dev] unpacker.eclass

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
any feedback before merging this initial version ? https://bugs.gentoo.org/399019 -mike # Copyright 1999-2012 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/eutils.eclass,v 1.377 2012/01/03 08:45:36 jlec Exp $

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dropping localepurge

2012-01-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 30 January 2012 19:39:03 »Q« wrote: > AIUI, LINGUAS is the only variable that should affect what locale stuff > gets installed. Is that right? yes -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Small change for epatch_user() in eutils.eclass

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 29 January 2012 06:22:02 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > epatch_user() currently looks into / subdirectories > of /etc/portage/patches. If the package has no revision, then PF and P > are identical, so there's no way to specify that a patch should only > apply to -r0. > > The patch below changes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 28 January 2012 00:07:01 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 01:01, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > > Exactly. Jason, if you want PIE across the board (with a few > > exceptions), switch to hardened. > > What? Are you kidding? > > Again, to reiterate, *I AM NOT SUGGESTING

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 28 January 2012 07:26:59 Anthony G. Basile wrote: > I've run nbench on two amd64 systems both running the same kernel > vanilla-3.2.2. i don't think nbench is a good benchmark for this as it isn't really testing what you think it's testing. it's very good at validating math support i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping localepurge

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 29 January 2012 00:01:50 Philip Webb wrote: > 120128 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Saturday 28 January 2012 08:29:44 Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> As talked with him, he won't be able to contribute a lot > >> during the following months and then would be nice >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages maintained by bass need a co-maintainer

2012-01-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 28 January 2012 08:29:44 Pacho Ramos wrote: > As talked with him, he won't be able to contribute a lot during the > following months and then would be nice to find co-maintainers for > his packages if possible: > app-admin/localepurge can probably just be dropped. packages should resp

Re: [gentoo-dev] useless set*id binaries

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 January 2012 20:49:49 Samuli Suominen wrote: > and people have multiple times tried to convince the cdrtools author to > change this, but without success. > the author can be, well, ... sure, i'm not expecting him to be anything resembling reasonable. but if we can reduce set*id imp

Re: [gentoo-dev] useless set*id binaries

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 January 2012 20:28:04 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: > > along these lines, why is cdrtools set*id ? if we have a "cdrom" group, > > and we assign our cdroms/dvdroms to that group, then we already have > > access control i

Re: [gentoo-dev] useless set*id binaries

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 January 2012 20:07:45 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 01/28/2012 02:41 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Friday 27 January 2012 19:18:07 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 01/28/2012 02:14 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> along these lines, why is cdrtools

Re: [gentoo-dev] useless set*id binaries

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 January 2012 19:18:07 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 01/28/2012 02:14 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > along these lines, why is cdrtools set*id ? if we have a "cdrom" group, > > and we assign our cdroms/dvdroms to that group, then we already have > > acces

[gentoo-dev] useless set*id binaries

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
hmm, i wonder why mount.nfs is set*id. if we require everyone to use `mount`, there's no need for `mount.nfs` to be set*id. someone want to point out something obvious that i'm missing before i adjust the nfs-utils package ? along these lines, why is cdrtools set*id ? if we have a "cdrom" gro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 January 2012 16:05:13 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 21:13, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > > Again - only if we don't get a consensus here. > > Wait... Is anybody here *actually opposed* to not enabling PIE on *SUID > binaries*? he was talking system wide consider

Re: [gentoo-dev] econf's localstatedir default doesn't match GNU suggestions

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 January 2012 16:21:21 W. Trevor King wrote: > I'm curious abotu why econf uses > > "${EPREFIX}"/var/lib my understanding is that from our sampling of packages over time, it seemed more common for upstream to expect this to be a path where they would dump state into. so if we use

Re: [gentoo-dev] {bi,multi}arch support for all x86/amd64/ppc/sparc systems

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 07 December 2011 17:15:47 Mike Frysinger wrote: > the advantage is that it should obsolete the separate kgcc64 package for > most people. and i think it might help out with the multilib bootstrap > issue: you can't build multilib gcc without a multilib glibc, and c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 January 2012 14:39:24 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > If the discussion on this doesn't get conclusive, how about adding the > question to the Council's agenda? getting the Council to vote on something without real data is premature -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally si

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 26 January 2012 11:55:54 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 06:58, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > pedantically, PIE+ASLR makes it significantly harder to exploit, not > > impossible > > > > if we could get some general performance numbers t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-01-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 27 January 2012 14:02:33 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > I've just been informed that RHEL does not allow non-PIE executables. We > really should follow suit here. i can't emphasize how little i care what RHEL/Fedora do. so the logic of "they do XXX therefore we should XXX" holds little sw

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-01-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 23 January 2012 14:08:51 Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > So I recently published this: http://blog.zx2c4.com/749 , a local priv > escalation. It doesn't work on Fedora because their /bin/su is compiled > with -pie. (They don't compile gpasswd with -pie though, so they're still > vulnerable.)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-01-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 23 January 2012 15:12:47 Francesco Riosa wrote: > 2012/1/23 Mike Gilbert: > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > >> To check for PIE, > >> > >> readelf -h /bin/su | grep Type > >> > >> If it says EXEC, no PIE. If it says DYN, yes PIE. > > > > I'm asking "how d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Can we get PIE on all SUID binaries by default, por favor?

2012-01-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 23 January 2012 14:37:40 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno lun, 23/01/2012 alle 20.26 +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld ha scritto: > > When ASLR is turned on, the .text section of executables compiled with > > PIE is given a randomized base address. When ASLR is off or when PIE > > is not us

Re: [gentoo-dev] Free Gentoo

2012-01-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 21 January 2012 13:01:26 . wrote: > Hello there! > > Is there a chance that Gentoo may become a free distro? > > I'm so unhappy with the fact that there are some non-free packages in > the main tree. > The main goal of the GNU project was to replace the proprietary Unix > system. You

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