The thing is, that while there's thew newest version (5.0.4) which had
all/most of the bugs fixed since 5.0, the original 5.0 version is still
being tested.
I think that after 5.0 was released you should have waitied for about a
month or so to let people discover bugs like they did, and released
patches/updates.
5.0.4 has been stable for quite a while, meaning most of the major things are fixed if not all of them.
So atleast add it to the tree, if not stable then atleast masked.On 4/25/05, Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Omer Cohen posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerptedbelow,on Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:13:51 +0200: PHP 5.0 was released a long time ago, and alot of fixes and patches were released after it to make sure it's sable.
According to PHP.net http://php.net/ the stable versions are PHP 5.0.4 4.3.11 4.3.11 is marked stable, but 5.0.4
dosn't even exist on the tree. 5.0.0 isn't marked at all, and everything till 5.0.3-r2 is marked are hard masked and still being tested. It's been like this for a long time now.
As a PHP developer I believe that 5.0.4 is more then stable, and should be added and marked stable. I don't wanna override the system and install it manualy.OK, I see a big discussion, but nobody has yet made this point, directly
at least, so here it is...I agree that 5.0.4 should at least be in the tree, if upstream is callingit stable.The point that should be emphasized, however, is that there's a /big/difference between the upstream application being stable, and Gentoo's
particular instance, that is, the ebuild script that merges it onto aGentoo system, being stable.Gentoo's keywording, while somewhatcorrelating with upstream in that what upstream has declared a beta or RC
is often never arch-stable keyworded on Gentoo, generally serves toindicate the Gentoo ebuild maintainer's evaluation of the stability of theEBUILD, *NOT* the stability (or lack thereof) of the upstream source.
Thus, as I said above, yes, the version that upstream calls stableshould reasonably be expected to be in the portage tree in some formwithin a reasonable (few week, often less) time, however, one can't always
expect that said portage tree version will be marked stable just becauseupstream defines that particular version of their product as stable,because the status of the Gentoo instance of it, the ebuild, may itself
not be stable, on one or more archs, possibly on all of them.In this instance, =php-5.0 on Gentoo is hard masked, not because of whatupsteam says, but because (presumably) there have been and remain
unresolved issues with the Gentoo deployment.Something in Gentoo'sprevious deployments conflicts with the current 5.0 layout, and a smoothtransition hasn't yet been worked out and fully tested, so the 5.x series
remains hard masked.Ignoring for the moment the issue of the 5.0.4 upstream-stable versionitself not being in the tree at all, if a sysadmin is suitably comfortablewith php-5.x, and either understands the issues keeping it masked on
Gentoo and knows they don't apply in his case or at least is willing toextend the effort to work around any issues that may appear, said sysadminis entirely free to package.unmask, or add keywords in an overlay, as
appropriate.That's why the portage system has been designed with thatflexibility in place, after all -- so it can be used at the decision ofthe individual Gentoo user -- aka the local Gentoo system sysadmin.
--Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --and if you use the program, he is your master.Richard Stallman in
http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html--gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list-- Thanks,
Omer Cohenwww.omerc.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]
