[gentoo-dev] Closing bugs

2010-09-11 Thread justin
Hi all,

is the following comment an adequate way to close bugs with
RESOLVED/INVALID? If so, I will change the way I handle bugs and use it too.


virtual/os-headers:  2.6.35 (sys-kernel/linux-headers)
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64

you mix stable  unstable - your problem


Cheers Justin



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs

2010-09-11 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 9/11/10 11:51 AM, justin wrote:
 is the following comment an adequate way to close bugs with
 RESOLVED/INVALID? If so, I will change the way I handle bugs and use it too.
 
 
 virtual/os-headers:  2.6.35 (sys-kernel/linux-headers)
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
 
 you mix stable  unstable - your problem
 

I think that closing as INVALID is fine in that case, but would say
please do not mix stable and unstable instead of your problem.

We should be polite when handling bugs.

Paweł



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs

2010-09-11 Thread Petteri Räty
On 09/11/2010 09:51 PM, justin wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 is the following comment an adequate way to close bugs with
 RESOLVED/INVALID? If so, I will change the way I handle bugs and use it too.
 
 
 virtual/os-headers:  2.6.35 (sys-kernel/linux-headers)
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
 
 you mix stable  unstable - your problem
 
 

Only if the problem will not eventually manifest itself with a pure
~arch or arch setup. Even then if it's easy to fix I would myself fix it
although we don't officially support it.

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs

2010-09-11 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Saturday 11 of September 2010 20:51:56 justin wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 is the following comment an adequate way to close bugs with
 RESOLVED/INVALID? If so, I will change the way I handle bugs and use it
 too.
 
 
 virtual/os-headers:  2.6.35 (sys-kernel/linux-headers)
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
 
 you mix stable  unstable - your problem
 

This is common misconception.

Let me quote myself from on of Diego's blogs, accusing me of not giving a crap 
about quality wrt FEATURES=test.

Some people say that mixing testing and stable subtrees is ‘broken’ and not 
supported.

It is because they apparently have no idea how package stabilization process 
works.

‘tinderbox’ idea of full ~arch integration tests is broken by design!

Why? Gentoo is distribution with rolling updates and packages being stabilized 
are hand picked from ~arch and integrated within existing stable environment 
(along with possible dependencies).

Now the question arises – since Gentoo stable is our ultimate target release 
(and not ~arch) - what is the point in testing how these packages interact 
with full testing ~arch? The answer is NONE!

If any, following tests should be run:

 - regression tests – ONLY within full stable arch, typical tinderbox of just 
chroot would fit there well, it could prevent issues like Gentoo LiveCD 
autobuilds failing since 8 April…

 - integration tests – in similar way stabilization process is performed:
stable system as a base, picking packages or package sets for tests along with 
their possible dependencies (best version visible, if not visible within 
stable arch, then best visible within testing arch or some other algorithm, 
usually just relying on ebuild dependencies) and testing whether it works so 
that stabilization process is a formality.

Running ~arch as 'test' platform is in many cases counter productive.

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MM


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs

2010-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, September 11, 2010 15:04:45 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:51:56 +0200 justin wrote:
  is the following comment an adequate way to close bugs with
  RESOLVED/INVALID? If so, I will change the way I handle bugs and use
  it too.
  
  
  virtual/os-headers:  2.6.35 (sys-kernel/linux-headers)
  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
  
  you mix stable  unstable - your problem
 
 Would the problem also occur if the user used unstable, but hadn't
 gotten around to updating every single package on their system all in
 one go?

no
-mike


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[gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Ryan Hill
Hey all,

just a friendly request:  If you do happen to mask a package for
removal, please do not close any bugs against the package on the basis
that it's being removed.  There have been several cases where bugs get
closed WONTFIX or INVALID, the removal is reversed for whatever reason,
and the bugs fall through the cracks.  Once the package is actually
deleted, the person removing it should go through bugzie and close any
open bugs.

Thanks.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Ryan Hill kirjoitti:
 Hey all,
 
 just a friendly request:  If you do happen to mask a package for
 removal, please do not close any bugs against the package on the basis
 that it's being removed.  There have been several cases where bugs get
 closed WONTFIX or INVALID, the removal is reversed for whatever reason,
 and the bugs fall through the cracks.  Once the package is actually
 deleted, the person removing it should go through bugzie and close any
 open bugs.
 
 Thanks.
 
 

Yeh the PMASKED KEYWORD is for packages waiting removal.

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:28:44 +0300
Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeh the PMASKED KEYWORD is for packages waiting removal.

Is there some place people are supposed to find out about this stuff?
I've seen two random Bugzilla keywords mentioned in here in the past
week or so as if they were common knowledge, and I've never heard of
them before.

Thanks,
Donnie


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti:
 On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:28:44 +0300
 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeh the PMASKED KEYWORD is for packages waiting removal.
 
 Is there some place people are supposed to find out about this stuff?
 I've seen two random Bugzilla keywords mentioned in here in the past
 week or so as if they were common knowledge, and I've never heard of
 them before.
 
 Thanks,
 Donnie

Yes. When you click the Keywords link it takes you to a description page:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/describekeywords.cgi

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:02:28 +0300
Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. When you click the Keywords link it takes you to a description
 page: https://bugs.gentoo.org/describekeywords.cgi

Sure, I'm aware of that. But where do I hear about the addition of new
ones? Am I supposed to randomly check the descriptions to see whether
they've shown up?

Thanks,
Donnie


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti:
 On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:02:28 +0300
 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. When you click the Keywords link it takes you to a description
 page: https://bugs.gentoo.org/describekeywords.cgi
 
 Sure, I'm aware of that. But where do I hear about the addition of new
 ones? Am I supposed to randomly check the descriptions to see whether
 they've shown up?
 
 Thanks,
 Donnie

Well ideally they would be discussed on gentoo-dev before addition and
that was done in the case of STABLEREQ KEYWORDREQ for example.

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Closing bugs on masked packages

2007-07-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On P, 2007-07-01 at 12:22 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 just a friendly request:  If you do happen to mask a package for
 removal, please do not close any bugs against the package on the basis
 that it's being removed.  There have been several cases where bugs get
 closed WONTFIX or INVALID, the removal is reversed for whatever reason,
 and the bugs fall through the cracks.  Once the package is actually
 deleted, the person removing it should go through bugzie and close any
 open bugs.

I've been operating on the premise that I am the maintainer of the
package in question and marking it as WONTFIX and making it depend on
the removal bug while at it. I don't see what's wrong in that..
If the removal gets reverted, all the depending bugs should be seen and
acted upon. Why should we keep bugs open in our maintainer bugs list if
we are 99% sure the package will get removed? We aren't treecleaners
project, but the maintainers of the packages whose bug we are marking
WONTFIX with the almost certain assumption the package will get removed
soon...


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[gentoo-dev] Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO]

2005-07-08 Thread Nathan L. Adams
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Duncan wrote:
 
 Well, not blocker g, but ...
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73181
 

This brings up a point that really irks me. In the bug, I believe the
dev implies that the reported bug has merit /yet he closes the bug
before actually doing something about it/. And I don't mean to pick on
Jeffrey; this seems to be a common habit among Gentoo devs.

If a bug is opened and it is a valid bug, the bug should not be closed
until it is actually squashed and the product ships (of course, if its a
valid bug that just won't get fixed for some reason, you can always mark
it WONTFIX):

http://bugs.gentoo.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status

I won't even go into the fact that the VERIFIED state* does not seemed
to be used or the fact that the person ASSIGNED to the bug is allowed to
close [his|her] own bugs! ;)

Nathan

* This would seem to be a perfect job for Team Leads, but it would need
to be enforced by Bugzilla, and the ASSIGNED engineer must not be the
same person as the VERIFIED(er) engineer for a particular bug.

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